hmmm a 12 year old trained his whole life in combat tactics?
or a guy born in 1920 who fought in WW2, the avengers, for shield, and a modern civil war?
yea Cptn definitely has the knowledge and experience advantage
oh an guess what?; they are both super human soldiers
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master cheif trained in combat from age 6-12 then fought in combat ops from 12/14-41 when Halo CE takes place
Cptn America whether its the comics or the movies must fight much more intelligent enemies over all as well as the occasional god or immortal or time master
Master Chief fights usually hordes of highly tech outfitted grunts and only the occasional intelligent/formidable adversary
i still think it would be a very close fight but yea i still think Cptn America would win
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Edited by BIT5 AND PIECE5: 5/11/2016 9:29:53 PM[quote]captain America fights more intelligent enemies[/quote] Master chief has fought over 10 individual extremely advanced alien races, and destroyed a galaxy munching virus.
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Captain America has fought MORE alien species, in the past, present and the future, different dimensions, 3 time masters, 5 gods and like 15 immortals (comics) so yea ima stand by what i said lol
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We're saying a guy that: Fell from orbit Prevented galactic size genocide twice Defeated the flood Defeated three different armies Destroyed and entire alien fleet Stopped a god-like being (the didact) And took a nuke at point blank without flinching Would lose a fight against a guy with fast reflexes extraordinary strength and a shield who is harmed by normal bullets[spoiler]seems legit[/spoiler]
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Edited by DarthBrando: 5/12/2016 1:49:18 PMread the marvel comics guy; Captain America stops 4 alien invasions of Earth, defeats hydra in the past single handedly, defeats hydra in the present with help of the avengers, defeats an Asgard [b][i][u]GOD[/u][/i][/b] with help of the avengers, defeats Ultron with help of the Avengers, defeats the Vision with help of the Avengers, defeats KRONOS a TIME GOD [b][i][u]BY HIMSELF PRETTY MUCH[/u][/i][/b] Defeats a super evil secret conspiracy thats being perpetrated by aliens disguised as [b][i]THE PRESIDENT[/i][/b] (Richard Nixon; thats right Cptn America busted in on a skull n bones style NWO conspiracy and at it's head was Richard Nixon Acting President of the United States an Cptn America got thru the secret service an took him dwn) 4 other gods Cptn takes dwn (like actual gods in marvel universe, not god like; ACTUAL GODS) and like 15 Immortals who have lived for 100s+ years in one of the newer comic series(and one of the avenger's cartoon shows) Dracula in WW2 was an ally to Cptn an helped him take out hydra; after Cptn defrosts; he ends up teaming up with [b][i][u]BLADE[/u][/i][/b] and takes down Dracula. im not saying MC isn't a "bad ass" im saying most of the races in the Covenant are stoooopiiid AF (like they are not smart lil buggers, they live very short life spans, an most of them are idiots; how else do you think it was that they were all so easily brainwashed and controlled by the Rhetoric of the Prophets' and their absolutely BS agenda?!) like Cptn America fought against actual unkillable immovable titans; hell he would spar: iron man thor hulk black panther wolverine ect FOR FUN/training
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[i] *puts on an antic disposition* [/i] He's been trained since the age of six, and is now at least 30 or so years old. He's been doing missions since about 14 though. So chief beats captain in knowledge and experience.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 5/10/2016 4:54:40 PM15 years of combat for MC? Captain America; enlisted in WW2 1940 but failed in 1941 he becomes Captain America from project rebirth in the movies he does not fight in WW2 until 1943 he fights hydra through out the war and quite successfully; in some missions he alone takes out 400-600 armed men. at the end of 1944 he gets frozen in the ice for 67 years. he was defrosted by S.H.E.I.L.D. in 2012 shortly after Nick Fury asks Cptn's help in taking down Loki who had stolen the tesseract. Cptn single handedly breaks up a fight between Iron Man and Thor (jus fyi) in the movie. then they captured Loki. Loki breaks out then the battle of New York happens, they fight the chitari, WSC tries to nuke New York; Iron Man flies the bomb thru the portal an falls back to earth; then they recapture Loki who surrenders. Cptn then goes off an works for S.H.I.E.L.D. for a while with Romanov. a while later the Hydra Uprising and Winter soldier events happen then the Ultron bit an after that Cptn is leader of the Avengers; then Cptn America Civil War happens (in the comics its a totally different timeline) basically he spends 3 years almost fighting in World War 2 doing spec ops and solo operations. hes frozen for 67 years then from 2012-2016 fights with avengers then shield then against hydra taken over shield and then vs ultron an then the new movie civil war. yea he only gets in about 7 years of actual fighting but; 3 years of black ops, taking on a rogue Asgard god, thwarting an alien invasion, running more black ops for 2 years, fighting his own black ops spy outfit, destroying whats left of hydra, fighting against an all knowing deranged superpowered AI, and then fighting toe to toe against ironman's team, yea thats a heck of a lot more action than Master Chief ever saw and vs much tougher enemies. if you use the comic book timeline; Captain America starts fighting in 1941, fights until 1945 when he's frozen, gets thawed out between 2003-2008 then works with the avengers for nearly 5 years, then becomes leader of the avengers, fights in the secret wars, an entirely different time line for quite a while; is sent back to his own time line, and then the civil war actions break out and stuff. so in the comics he's actually more trained and waaay more experienced.
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Edited by ThaddeusHamlet: 5/10/2016 5:05:09 PM[i] *puts on an antic disposition* [/i] Do you even know any of Halo's extended universe? The chief has done waaay more. And those 32 years were only actual ops. Many of the training missions before that were actually life and death, just not fighting against insurrectionists or covenant. And the chief takes on entire armies [i]practically every mission[/i] single handedly. [spoiler]Oh and my apologies, Chief is actually 46.[/spoiler]
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yes ive dug a bit into halo lore but haven't read the comics i get MC spent most of his life running ops and fighting the colonist rebels then the covenant & flood and after that a few forerunners and their hordes of AI defense drones; by contrast though most of the covenant and flood are actually pretty simple minded though their tech is quite impressive. the AI drones er what ever they are that the forerunners use is formidable but not overly intuitive or very comprehensive when it comes to tactics. in the Marvel comics universe captain spends 20 years fighting in combat then goes to an alternate time line and fights for a decent amount of years comes back and fights in the marvel secret wars storyline before meeting his "demise" in the civil war bit in the comics what i was trying to get at is; master chief has a lot more tech at his disposal and fights for the most part a lot more simple minded enemies than captain America so though master chief does spend more years fighting its mostly against nigh mindless grunts who usually have better tech than master chief.
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[i] *puts on an antic disposition* [/i] A much better point there.
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He was trained since 6
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6 years training and 15 years fighting for MC yea i get it; hes still only 12 in halo 1
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[i] *puts on an antic disposition* [/i] Actually he's 41 in Combat Evolved. He was 14 at the time of their first real mission, which was still only against the rebels.
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that makes much more sense actually i heard he was still very young in halo 1 thnx for the filling in/ correction. don't get me wrong I believe for sure it would be quite a close fight i still think Cptn America would win though as he's had to defeat much more intelligent enemies and on occasion immortals, gods, super geniuses and time masters. Master Chief has had some crazy enemies too but he's only fought a few immortals, and even less actual cunning enemies
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[quote]A guy born in [b]1950[/b] who fought in [b]WW2[/b][/quote] Looks like the education system is even shittier...
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WWII was in the late 30s early 40s so your correction was an... incorrection ;)
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USA WW2 involvment
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[quote]WWII was in the late 30s early 40s so your correction was an... incorrection ;)[/quote] What did I say that was incorrect? I simply made a direct quote of OP.
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yea my bad 30 hours no sleep lets see if you don't get any typos. 1941 pearl harbor happened an we entered WW2 i meant to say born in 1920
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[quote][quote]A guy born in [b]1950[/b] who fought in [b]WW2[/b][/quote] Looks like the education system is even shittier...[/quote]
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[quote]yea my bad 30 hours no sleep lets see if you don't get any typos. 1941 pearl harbor happened an we entered WW2 i meant to say born in 1920[/quote]
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[quote][quote]A guy born in [b]1950[/b] who fought in [b]WW2[/b][/quote] Looks like the education system is even shittier...[/quote] Lmfao