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Would you support deportation of illegal immigrants?

Yes, I support deportation.

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I'm going to create a very basic situation to define the boundaries of discussion. Person A crosses the U.S. border without documentation. This is illegal. Person A is now correctly designated as an illegal immigrant. It is yet to be determined if Person A is a criminal (aside from their illegal status). For all we know, Person A could be a pacifist genius. Now, should Person A be deported? Why or why not? Truthfully, you shouldn't need to know the character of a person to make this decision. Too often I see either side of the debate try and use examples of illegal immigrants acting benevolently or malevolently. To me, those arguments don't hold any weight. The reason is simple. Laws must be enforced by violence. It's a fundamental part of state authority. Now, Libertarians are more than aware of this. The nature of the law is violent. If you break the law, no matter how insignificant your offense was, a man with a gun and a badge can [i]always[/i] get involved. This doesn't necessarily mean that every police encounter has to be violent. That's [i]far[/i] from a Libertarian idea. However, if somebody enters the nation illegally, they have broken the law. At some point, violence or the threat of violence must come into play. If you enter illegally, you get sent back. You can comply or you can be forcefully ejected. "But Stallcall, there's arguably better ways to solve an illegal immigration problem. We could give them temporary amnesty or a faster path to citizenship..." I won't argue that there aren't other options that appear to be more convenient. But to me, it's irrelevant. Here's why: If we remove the threat of violence from a particular law, but not others, then violence perpetrated by the state becomes arbitrary. In essence, we as a society say, "Some rules are worth enforcing, others are not." Keep in mind that the previous examples of amnesty and paths to citizenship would mean the law is [i]not[/i] enforced. TL;DR As a Libertarian, I do not support arbitrary violence. It's the fact that violence must be used that makes it important to keep laws as just as possible. I support deportation in this hypothetical situation. What are [i]your[/i] thoughts on deportation?

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  • Give an ultimatum: Turn in yourself [i]and[/i] apply for citizenship (you won't be deported, but must show requirements for being a citizen, and must also have a job) to receive amnesty. Or You will be found and deported.

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