"Allegiance is now recruiting"? ... Funny, when was that donation-driven glorified-LFG spamming machine that xAx has become even NOT recruiting?
BTW, those threads you mention have a strange habbit of disappearing from the fourm if they hit the front page, fortunately there is no shortage of xAx recruitment threads to share experiences or opinions about about xAx since spamming seems to be ok.
At least we don't create false accounts on the xAx webiste and troll the chat or private message members to try to get the to leave, ask your founder about that HennaC
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Kinda confused as to why your clan has such a vendetta against ours. From my understanding your members used to be apart of our clan until you either left or got kicked, not sure which one but does not really matter you are no longer part of our clan. You guys then pop up as soon as Bungie features us on their homepage making nothing but negative statements. You make claims about our founder "stalking" your clans forums trying to get people to leave your clan but show no proof. Now you guys are all stalking our posts trying to either get people to not join or leave. My proof is easily seen on all our recruitment posts and the posts your clan has made in the recruitment forum. So essentially you are doing the exact thing you are complaining about happening to you, interesting. Yes, our clan has an account members can make donations to. There are no requirements, messages, or any incentives anywhere in our clan telling/encouraging/etc.. members to make donations. Members choose to make donations on their own free will and with that I find it funny how other people try to tell someone how then can or can't use their money. You claim the donations are being stolen and yet show no proof. When you become a member to the clan you gain access to a forum topic that shows all withdrawals from the donations and exactly where the money went to. Since you are no longer a member you might not be aware of that. In short it appears that these attacks from your clan are driven from you believing that when you guys left or were kicked from our clan that we would crumble and fall apart due to your peoples presence no longer being there. When you saw Bungie promoting us on their front page and released that we have flourished since you left you have resorted to to lashing out at our clan and even making wild accusations to some how quench your rage. With that I will sit back and continue to watch the spectacle that your clan is putting on.
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Ask him also why he leaves you guys to fend for yourselves and him - loyalty is everything right?
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Edited by leigull: 3/9/2016 5:10:14 PMWow where to start with that. Firstly, we left as a group after numerous occasions of the founder, ignoring/abusing/lying to a fairly high number of people. The sudden influx of previous members of xax posting comments on your recruitment threads has come about since the founder decided to start posting messages (under a different name obviously) on our chat about xax since the Bungie feature, and trying to lure people to join him. Very classy. He was trying to rub xax's 5 minutes of fame in our faces, but as usual completely missed the point as to why we left. This was largely down to his greed with money and trying to get as many members as possible, irrespective of how that affected the people that made the clan what it was, the members and admins. So his year of constantly spamming Bungie to get featured finally paid off, and we were supposedly jealous of this. We have had very minimal efforts at recruitment because we like having a small close knit (donation free) community, the exact opposite of xax. So had said founder not decided to trawl our site and PM members, then perhaps none of this would have happened.
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So that I understand. Someone did something you did not like and in return you go and do that exact same thing while complaining about it happening to you? Pot/Kettle , two wrongs dont make a right? At what point do you stop?
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What am I doing that is 'exactly the same thing' out of interest?
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Claiming he is entering into your forums/threads causing a ruckus and then you are doing the same thing here.
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Erm, am I doing it under a different user name to what I've use on PSN since before my xax days, and 'subtly' trying to manipulate people by lying? No no, there's only one person that's done that I'm afraid.
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a ruckus is a ruckus.
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Haha, great answer.
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thank you
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You've been pretty level headed and voiced your opinions well on here, it's a shame you're not just a little disappointed with how your leader has acted over the the last week. If he ever manned up, admitted what he did was pretty shitty and maybe even apologised, then perhaps we'd all go our separate ways again, much like we had done over the last 6 months or so.
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1º We all left, there was a mass exodus fed up with wehat the founder was turning the clan into, how or why would ambasador, head admins, and many admins leave all at once? of course you would not know why since the founder banned and deleted and censured everything about it. But there was always people leaving at any moment for the same reasons since I can remember, if you have been in the clan long enough to realise it did you ever wondered why there is such a high turn over in admins leaving after a while? 2º Nobody is claiming the money from the donations is being stolen, that would be too a abvious move if true, but rather the problem is how the money is being accumulated way way way beyond what the clan will need in ten years of what is spent per month on running costs and cheap prizes fro recruitment contests that spam the forums. 3º No incentives on donations? are the donators names not displayed on the fornt page for all to see, and what is even worse, does the founder not give awards to members who donate? 4º we have no vendetta, we were minding our own business until our chat was trolled by your founder to "mention" the unite the clans mention, we didnb't even now about until that. That kind of pisses people off wouldn't you say. ONly to find out that he had been sending private memsages to our members to mention xAx and to join. . . . Proof? how about this? [i]It started when an inactive member of our clan by the nickname yankeesrule2006 came in our clan website chat on Friday March 4th asking about xAx and then saying quote: "[4/3/2016 23:29:17] yankeesrule2006: oh thats the unite the clans highlighted destiny clan for the week." "[4/3/2016 23:46:32] yankeesrule2006: i wonder how they got that spotlight then if they were that bad?" Very suspicious right? so when asked about his PSN nickname he quickly said it was pebel0632, quote: [5/3/2016 0:22:47] yankeesrule2006: pebel0632 add me shadow Turns out "pebel" is StevieBizzle (the founder of xAx) skype's name. And that nick did not appear on PSN so he quickly said that it was actually Cabbage_Ravager, quote: [5/3/2016 0:29:00] yankeesrule2006: maybe its not that, i'm primarily an xbone player let me check [5/3/2016 0:29:00] yankeesrule2006: Cabbage_Ravager [5/3/2016 0:29:00] yankeesrule2006: not sure why i though it was pebel0632... Turns out that Cabbage_Ravager is a team name for a New York team on the Maden Footbal Leage that they have running on their xAx website, as you can see from this link http://www.xallegiancex.com/192334/topic/xallegiancex-madden-league-connected-franchise-eqk/1 (have a screen capture in case it "disappears"). Steve Blanchard BTW is from New York and a big football, baseball fan as everybody knows. But thats not all, we also found out that he had been private messaging members of our clan with that yankeesrule2016 nickname for months, trying to poach them through lies and deception, here is one of them: "hey, if your struggling with getting stuff done on destiny i know that this community can help http://www.xallegiancex.com. my buddy just joined it, i guess its where these guys came from and they love it. I'm just having a real hard time getting anything done in this community and i still want to play destiny so i figured i would let you know contemplating joining them... sorry for randomly messaging you just figured i'd try and help you out and with you trying to get stuff together i figured id let you know about that other community" This private message for example, was from February, way before he came into the chat asking what xAx was. Judge for youselves what kind of a person this is, thats the founder of xAx, and why we so many people end up leaving xAx, ak.k.a the glorified LFG..[/i] Is that proof enough? how can you sweep that away under the rug now? I'll let your conscience decide.
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Before I start answering I would like to point out I do not condone using a person's real name on public forums. 1) Find it funny you put this in because as I stated it does not matter you were no longer in the clan. From what you are saying your clan had differing opinions on the direction of the our clan so you decided to leave. Is that not what happens when you are in a group and develop different visions, you move on and go your separate way. Why would I need to look for a reason why you left? 2) So what you are saying is there should be a cap on donations? Once you hit "x" amount of money tell everyone to stop? Why tell people how they can and cant use their money? If a person wants to donate to the clan why cant we let them? 3) If you consider a picture of a gem attached to your profile an incentive then yes I guess there is a very small incentive. I do not consider it as that because it does not give you any special status over anyone else. You do not gain perks of any kind that puts you ahead of anyone that does not donate. For the donors name being shown on the front page, it is in a small box on the bottom of the screen that you have to scroll down to see. They are given an option to either put their name or to do it anonymously. I do not see how this is an incentive either, I see it as a way to verify that the donations are being added into the paypal account. It lets you see what is going in and compare to what is going out so you can indeed balance the account to confirm there is not thievery going on. 4) So you have shown proof finally of someone making comments on your website. I am curious about the time stamp duplicating itself when you see the person mention a new PSN. (as I said above I do not condone you going and writing the person real name that you think it is) So saying that it is who you think it is that sent those messages, why would you go and begin essentially doing the same thing. You are complaining about what he is doing but then you are essentially turning around and doing the same thing on these forums, seems alittle pot and kettle to me.
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I don't think any of us are that conceited to think our leaving would make xax crumble. As for a so called vendetta, any issue is entirely with your founder and started at his provocation - you should maybe ask him for the honest truth about why folk left (none of us were kicked). But no, that would be a waste of time.Be a good little sheep and keep copy paste recruiting.
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xax crumbled? seems more like you're butthurt that it didn't. I've left clans for different reason, but never cared enough to go back and cry about it on their threads.
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Read what I actually posted Bernie. Or should i type it in pleb?
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Edited by Bernie Lomax: 3/9/2016 7:15:47 PMi really didn't care enough to, Spuff, or should I say ButtHurt.
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Excellent command of English
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likewise
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You kinda back track on what you are saying. You go on to say you have no issue with me but only our founder and then in your next sentence you launch an attack at me. Seems like a little pent up rage that you are unleashing on anybody that is associated with the clan.
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I never said I didn't have a problem with you. I'm sure there's plenty of good folk in your clan.
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So you have a problem with me? But you said: [quote]issue is entirely with your founder[/quote] So I, who have done nothing to you but received your angry message have done something to has enraged you?
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That was a typo, read 'was' instead. I'm a bad apple from what I hear so you shouldn't be suprised.
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Edited by Bernie Lomax: 3/9/2016 7:19:31 PMI like their recruiting tactic of acting another clan because, promotion of their own on it own would be a waste of time. Why would I join a clan that spends this much time trying to get people to not join another clan? If your looking for a clan, don't join one full of haters, you could be next on their hate attacks if you don't do things their way.
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No one is trying to get people to join our clan, or not join another clan. Just pointing out some facts in the hope people don't make the same mistakes as many as us did a year ago.