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Personally and like most I thought weapon reforging was a great addition to the game, however we all soon learned that reforging weapons turned what we thought were already OP weapons into even more powerful versions. I think the community and Bungie underestimated just how strong the weapons could become with perfect rolls, significantly bolstering a weapons capabilities, anyone who says the likes of rangefinder/hammer forged and shot package on a shotgun were fine are thick in the skull, it was broken beyond words. The reason most of us didn't notice the full effect of the weapon reforging was due to the exotics being just as broken, alot of the primaries back in the Thorn/Last Word era were brutal, way more powerful than anything we have now but were overshadowed by the exotics. Weapon reforging taught us a good lesson, it basically caused the removal of shot package from the game and another nerf to shotguns, which to be honest they needed anyway. As much fun as rerolling was, it broke the pvp scene, turning everything into a powerhouse, it was a good thing to remove it, its just too good to be in the game.
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  • I agree. Pvp was broke then and really unbalanced with little variety.

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  • this makes me sad... "as much fun as it was, ..... its just too good to be in the game" if it was fun and it was good... it should be in the game... cause good things that are fun are supposed to be in games. so what weapons "might" have been a bit OP... everyone had them.. and if everyone had them.. then they are just average right?

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  • Edited by The Woolldozer: 3/1/2016 2:24:05 PM
    Yeah, so we should have infinite heavy ammo, and every gun should be a one-shot kill from any distance without aiming. If guns are too good, then there's no challenge. I agree that we should have some form of weapon reforging, but he's absolutely right that guns were too good. We needed better options for perks that don't make one roll ungodly OP. We should be able to find a roll that we like, not the one roll that makes the game easy-mode.

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  • if everybody has an ungodly OP gun.... does anyone have an ungodly OP gun?

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  • It would be like if everyone had Gjallarhorn ammo constantly. It makes gameplay cheap, and you are at a disadvantage using any other gun.

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  • I played year one man.. and I cut my teeth on the thorn/shotty meta... and I absolutely LOVED every second of it... you could actually feel like a badass and it was fun... and that's how it should be... as scary as this sounds... thorn/shotty is by far better then what we got now... cause crucible sucks balls now..

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  • Shotguns were the absolute worst. They ruined gameplay. Getting one-shot by a Felwinters from across the map was the absolute worst. The only reason you romanticize it is because we didn't have the SBMM that we have right now which makes every game frustrating. Imagine going up against elite players every game that were using Thorn/TLW, Felwinters, and Blink. It was a nightmare in Trials.

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  • if it was elite players every match why does it seem like a lot of year one lighthouse people say its harder in year 2? and besides... if someones gonna thorn/felwinters/blink you... do it back to them... its still an even playing field by loadout... let your skill do the talkin... if you lost having the same weapons as them but different skill levels... you didn't deserve to beat them in the first place.

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  • You totally misunderstood what I posted. Until you provide a proper response, I'll just carry on.

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  • just carry on then... it doesn't change the fact that a single RNG is better then a triple RNG...

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  • The only difference is back then pvp was fun now it's not

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