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I don't think any of the changes implemented have helped. I would go as far as to say it's made game play worse for me. It's almost like my connection to the servers was downgraded to match everyone else and entire lobbies were red barring. Finding people close to our locality doesn't necessarily mean a chance at less lag.

My experience in the crucible has improved. The mercy rule has not had to be implemented yet, the matches seem to be closer right until the very end, overall I have had a much better experience in the crucible than before. I look forward to this new algorithm being applied across the playlists. Thank you for your hard work!

DeeJ your techs have dropped the ball on lag for the entire run of this game....having a red bar (poor connection) or two on your team ensures at least one player runs like GOD refer to my 32 and 4 where I melee a stormcalling warlock out of his super and continue my reign of terror...your techs suck a fixing things and anything they "fix" breaks other things.

Will the new updates also be applied to ToO, the update does say all Crucible playlists?

Bungie doesn't read this. Reply to this Bungie if you even give a crap or let's see if this forum is one sided (yours). A forum is to exchange ideas not just spout garbage then let us vent to each other while you run and hide.

(I know, I know.. I'm tardy to the party. But just wanted to give a more "up-to-date" comment on this, since it's a problem still being worked on) Last Iron Banner event, I played every single day all day and had no problem with lag. I usually don't play the crucible, but I'd consider myself a casual pvper. This Iron Banner event..... was horrible. During the day (EST) from morning till about 3-4 my connection would be perfect, other players' connections would be perfect, we were equally matched teams as far skill and connection. During the day I was SLAYING through matches with pretty decent k/d ratios. As soon as 3 or 4 pm hit, lag hit me and other players like your dad's fart would hit your face. Thankfully I was never matched against or in a team with players who were taking advantage of lag like other people were explaining before me. But I have to say that all the other problems people are having were going on throughout the iron banner. I play Destiny for hours and hours. I especially enjoy the iron banner and other events. This IB event though, I only played 3 or 4 days of last week from the day it started because it was too frustrating after having amazing connection and such a great time with these fireteams during the day and then tons of laggers come in, laggers who take advantage, etc. But my main problems are as followed: - hand cannons (and other weapons that are shitty) being fired over 40ft.. 50ft away killing you in one hit -being killed when you're behind walls and rocks. This was probably one of my biggest frustrations. I know this is a true problem and not me thinking I'm behind it when I'm not, because i tested it when I equipped my sword for a 3 person view. I was being killed through walls and rocks -spawning into a match with "good" connection that the bar indicates, then 2 minutes in it's showing that me and/or other players have very poor connection. Though I will say that there are times where my lag doesn't give me an advantage OR disadvantage, but more times than not it's a problem. -screen blacking out almost every match or every other match, come back into the game dead (was out so long that I don't even see on the corner of the screen who killed me and how), can't shoot or move, other players around me freeze and 3 sec later I'm alone, etc. -shooting tf out of players, you know damn well you killed them dead, and no damage shows.. they kill you in one hit. and either they don't die or they die at least 30 sec after you die -guns that normally would NEVER kill you in 1-2 hits kill you (I mentioned this but it's so upsetting). I'm not one of the super hard-hardcore gamers who get down to a science what the right weapons to use in which pvp match in the crucible, but I know enough about this game and the weapons to know that shouldn't be happening, damnit. I agree with the people saying it should be skill-based and the people who say it should be connection-based. For someone who loves having fun but at the same time loves seeing a high k/d ratio, I don't think there's really a middle ground for this. It sucks so hard being over 305 and every person on your match-made fireteam is below 300, while the other fire team is 305 and above. They're completely wrecking your teammates while you're pretty much a lone wolf. I don't know how many times I've seen "strength of the pack" or other one-man army badges and stuff come up on my screen. Make the lower lvls get more experienced by demolishing them, sure, that's how I learned when I was young to get better. But it's not fun playing with high lvl players who don't play fair. And I'm not talking about players who only play the crucible while still having fun. I mean the ones who just prey on any "weak" player whether it be light lvl or connection. But at the same time, connection is beyond a huge issue for almost everyone. Before these connection/matchmaking "changes" were made, there was no problem with lagging. Ever. At least from what I remember. It was as smooth as a baby's bottom. And now we have either: 1) a couple laggers on one fireteam against perfect connection players singling out and targeting the laggers to make it easier for them to win, or 2) several laggers taking advantage of their lag (being jerks) and teasing/-blam!-ing with the other players, happening almost every single match (after 3pm EST for me). Now, Crimson Doubles... That was the -blam!-ing best. Rarely had lag, rarely played with anyone who was lagging, evenly matched with both connection and skill, super -blam!-ing fun to play. It was really a joy. And after I got only a couple of the rewards in just a couple days, I wasn't even playing for them anymore. It was just fun. I don't really want this comment to be up for debate with other players cause I don't care that much to do that. I just wanted to express the very serious concerns about our gameplay. You know it's bad when og players and players who play for LONG hours get off for days at a time. After this long of people complaining, for most people this isn't a "it goes both ways" kind of deal. For a lot of us, only one way is the problem, and that's coming from Bungie's end. I love this game but the matchmaking system should've been left alone in my player opinion. This is the worst lag I've ever had on Destiny. Ever. And I'm super disappointed. Edit: went through my stats for clash and forgot to mention that the many times when my screen blacks out, before it does so I know I've killed at least 7 people and when I return I have 0 kills. And this will happen with at most 5 min left of the match.

preuve a l'appui ( http://www.twitch.tv/dovixx83/v/51113535 ), votre systeme de connexion n'est pas tres au point, nous , européen, avons le sentiment d'etre laisser de coté et c'est bien malheureux car vous avez une tres grande communauté (francophone entre autre) qui vous suit depuis presque 2 ans, en esperant des améliorations, merci pour ses bons moments passé dessus, mais malheureusement vous perdez enormement de gens a cause de ca, et bien sur , le fait que vous abandonniez les anciens raids ce qui est malheureux,

Nothing has changed. And I am still spawning into games where a team is down by 10,000 and only has two people on the team, constantly spawning into supers and heavy. Thanks Bungie, real great way to treat the community.

So simple yet ultimately ignored but why in the world am I forced to play with laggers? I bought my own modem, pay a lot for cable internet, ensure i have open nat, ports forwarded etc. And whats with the green bars now? Laggers have them too. I can tell when someone lags regardless of their connection color. I can tell they're not taking damage then 2 minutes later they're red barring. But again why? Let them suffer with each other. I want to play with good connection players like me only. Ill wait in the lobby. I think everyone would. I sincerely believe that bungie doesnt play this game at home because if they realized how utterly frustrating it is then it would be correcte . Im also not buying any more expansions, destiny 2 et . My reasoning is once bitten twice shy. In almost 18 months its still not been addressed appropriately. I refuse to start playing and getting sucked in again only to be let down by lag. Fine product but you really forgot about this when you started.

[quote] [b]UPDATE (02/18/2016): Matchmaking tuning has been revised to prioritize finding people who are close to your locality in the interest of further reducing lag.[/b][/quote] Ok, so how does this work when my fireteam is in three different states? Is "locality" in this sense an area of 1000 miles of me, or my own city? As for lag, the last iron banner was horrible after the updates. I saw nothing but negative reviews about it, and then someone at Bungie said the reviews were mostly positive. I finally see a couple of positive reviews in these comments, but still, it's generally negative. You can't please everyone, so I'm not sure who you're trying to please now. Skill based matching works better, hands down. Lag comes into play with the person's skill in many cases...someone who is lagging on their end will be unable to make the shots. And someone that has a periodic downturn for a few seconds might get rated with a worse connection and therefore get put with poorer performing connections. There's no perfect solution, but I don't think you're going in the right direction. The breaking point for me today after several similar scenarios was seeing a blade dancer with his shields gone take zero damage while I unloaded half my auto rifle into him. He was moving, so the game was sending data to me (and it wasn't just the lagging last direction of travel movement...he was changing directions). I never saw these problems prior to the moment you started doing connection based matches. So, I will be hanging up Destiny for a while. I enjoyed the Crucible from the very beginning, but I can't take it like it is anymore. Meles not registering, grenades not doing any damage, etc. I can tell when I miss a shot, and I can handle being outgunned by heavy ammo or a ranged scout rifle. That's fine. But, when damage doesn't register....the frustration is just not worth it. I'll play something relaxing. I was just about sold on some emotes, too, but I won't be spending the money now.

I have pretty much been reporting a player per match for bad connection. Have never done that before this IB so....

fuсk good job

So I continue to wonder when or even IF you guys at the all mighty Bungie are going to start taking reporting of cheating players in crucible seriously. We ran into 3 players in Iron Banner yesterday who started the game green then as soon as we were in transit went hard red instantly. While playing, they were bouncing all over the place, dancing in front of us as we shot them and they took no damage. We REPEATEDLY reported them, yet nothing EVER happens!!! Come on! Stop worrying about a stupid twitch development page and vids and start cleaning up your game. I know im wasting my time hear, as you don't really do anything that makes the game better. Keep fixing ANY little glitch you find that eases some of the burden on us, but don't worry about the people who cheating and driving away year 1 long term players.