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originally posted in: That Halftime Show was Badass
2/9/2016 8:18:39 PM
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At first I thought it was flawless. Then I heard about Beyoncé's song and all the symbolism. The Super Bowl is no place for that shit. It's kinda -blam!-ed up to spread a message about hate in the Super Bowl. And it [i]is[/i] hate, because that's all that BLM knows what to do. -blam!- BLM. They're all -blam!-ing animals.
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  • How is black lives matter hate? Sounds to me like you're the hateful one. It's this kind of attitude that keeps racism and bigotry alive.

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  • Yeah I'm the racist one for attacking cops and burning down cities. Yeah, okay.

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  • Edited by PresidenteBush: 2/9/2016 10:29:11 PM
    Isolated incidents within a movement do not define the movement as a whole. Islamic terrorists do not speak for the entire Islam religion. I'm simply saying, those kinds of sweeping generalizations and biased opinions are what allow hatred, racism and bigotry to thrive.

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  • What have I said so far that's racist or being a bigot? Not agreeing with a barbaric movement? And I'd say Ferguson and Baltimore being looted aren't isolated, they're rather large events. And as for "making sweeping generalizations" - holy shit, that's the entirety of the BLM movement! A couple of isolated, media-blown incidents cause massive outrage. I don't see where you're trying to go with this. Do you have some sort of weird misconception that I hate black people and other minorities? Because I don't.

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  • You called people involved in the BLM movement 'animals.' That is pretty racist, imo. And police discrimination against minorities is nothing new, nor is it limited to a few isolated incidents. The media has been focusing on it more in the past few years because it has become such a hot topic and the media loves a good story. That doesn't mean that it hasn't been a problem for years. It's a good thing that attention is being drawn to it. I'm simply saying that if you are opposed to a movement that at its core seeks to eradicate oppressive, unwarranted violence towards lower class citizens/minorities, then you are part of the problem. Whatever their methods, the message is right. Black lives do matter. All lives matter, equally. If you can't see that, then there's no talking to you. And I don't understand what the big deal about her performance was anyway. She used a platform to make a statement that she knew millions of people would see and talk about. It worked. It was shrewd. The Super Bowl isn't some sacred event where people aren't allowed to share an opinion, or let their voice be heard. It's a television production. Your whole 'not the time and place' attitude is silly. You may not be a racist, I don't know you, and I don't care to. But the fact is, your views are petty, childish and small-minded. If you view the entirety of a movement based on a few isolated acts of violence, then you are failing to understand revolution/change at its core.

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  • [quote]You called people involved in the BLM movement 'animals.' That is pretty racist, imo. [spoiler]right, so calling people who ravage towns and target cops in the name of 'justice' is racist.[/spoiler] And police discrimination against minorities is nothing new, nor is it limited to a few isolated incidents. The media has been focusing on it more in the past few years because it has become such a hot topic and the media loves a good story. That doesn't mean that it hasn't been a problem for years. It's a good thing that attention is being drawn to it. [spoiler]and I can agree with that. Yet they don't show all the details, they show it one-sided, etc.. It's the media, they're gonna do media-things for RATINGS. That's what I'm saying.[/spoiler] I'm simply saying that if you are opposed to a movement that at its core seeks to eradicate oppressive, unwarranted violence towards lower class citizens/minorities, then you are part of the problem. Whatever their methods, the message is right. Black lives do matter. All lives matter, equally. If you can't see that, then there's no talking to you. [spoiler]So you're saying that the ends justify the means? Hell no, I'm not going to agree with a group of savages that go with violence. Do you wonder why MLK was so successful? Nonviolence. [u]peaceful[/u] protests. They did great things to achieve great goals, unlike this group. [/spoiler] And I don't understand what the big deal about her performance was anyway. She used a platform to make a statement that she knew millions of people would see and talk about. It worked. It was shrewd. The Super Bowl isn't some sacred event where people aren't allowed to share an opinion, or let their voice be heard. It's a television production. Your whole 'not the time and place' attitude is silly. [spoiler]it's a [i]game[/i], not a political advertisement.[/spoiler] You may not be a racist, I don't know you, and I don't care to. But the fact is, your views are petty, childish and small-minded. If you view the entirety of a movement based on a few isolated acts of violence, then you are failing to understand revolution/change at its core.[/quote] Right. So I'm the childish one for believing that the means they use somehow justify the ends.

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  • On the whole, the BLM movement is not violent, anarchistic, radical or hateful. I simply disagree with that opinion. You are highly uninformed about the movement, that much is clear. Maybe do your homework next time before spouting off at the mouth weighted accusations and half-baked criticisms.

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  • Holy shit you are so pretentious and quick to assume. I think I'll just call you anti-white because you're disagreeing with me! Oh, and you must [i][b]hate[/b][/i] the police as well! This is fun!!! I think you need to do your homework and stop assuming. How can you back a group that's so delusional that it thinks the police target and purposely gun down black people because they are inferior! We can talk about the so-called martyrs too, like Trevon Martin, who charged at the cop who gunned him down. How dare he! Self-defense, that's just heresy. I'm not blind either. It's clear that there are policemen who abuse their power. Yet BLM act as if ALL white cops are a part of KKK or something. [i]News flash![/i] cops are humans. Humans make mistakes, humans get pressured, humans can be rotten to the core. I'm not saying that justifies cops being like that, but it's what should be expected by any human. And it's also pretty obvious that only a minority show these characteristics, otherwise we would be a police state, or we would mirror the '50s. I could go on and on. Where's the outrage for black cops killing white people? Black people killing white cops? White people killing black cops? The double standards are so apparent that it's incredible that more people don't see them. In the end, there is absolutely no reason to follow a group such as BLM. They are a malignant cancer. If they were more like MLK in how they protest or get their message across, then I'd be with them. They're becoming more and more like the black panthers in some regards. And quite obviously, any reasonable person would be against police brutality. But again, that's basically human nature. Like corruption. You can't just simply be rid of it. And as for equal rights? I'm all for it, but for the most part, we are equal. It's more of a cultural issue, and in time, people will be treated equal - no law can change that (see: the train wreck that is affirmative action).

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