Helping 1 person by hurting the 3 people during each of the rounds you win while carrying that one person. Yeah man, I definitely don't see any negative impact there.
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[quote]Helping 1 person by hurting the 3 people during each of the rounds you win while carrying that one person. Yeah man, I definitely don't see any negative impact there.[/quote] Then you aren't seeing the point that two sherpas creating their own handicap and still winning were always going to win. If these guys can, essentially, play 2v3 and win then these three people who got hurt were always going to get hurt. They were going to lose regardless. If the two sherpas had brought another strong player, how would the results be any different? They brought in a weaker player and helped them enjoy more of the content we all played for and nobody cheated.
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Considering that most sherpas do trial carries in exchange for twitch views or $ incentives, they wouldn't still be playing trials if it wasn't for that one person they were carrying. If they were playing for fun then they could be playing past the 9 wins with other people as good as them. Instead these sherpas start a new pass and face lots of average players that they stomp all over just to carry that one person, majority of the time in exchange for personal gain. So no, if people weren't getting carried to the lighthouse, it wouldn't be the same.
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I think you're too invested in why other people play this game. It's none of your business. People were getting carried through content in games long before Twitch became a thing. You want sherpas to stop carrying people because of some illusion of monetary gain. How many of these Twitch streamers really make any money? I'm going to guess, not many. I do not care how people complete content because it's not my business. Keep your nose out of other people's business and you'll be much less salty.
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You're telling others that they should be ashamed by saying anything bad about sherpas in trials, and now you want people to just mind their own business? Hypocrite much? I said it before, and I'll say it again. Sherpas in trials aren't little angels going around helping people, and I will never praise them as such. People like you only go to show how correct that statement is. You want people to praise the little good they do, but as soon as someone says something negative about them you start telling them to keep their noses out of what they're doing.
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[quote]You're telling others that they should be ashamed by saying anything bad about sherpas in trials, and now you want people to just mind their own business? Hypocrite much? [/quote] I can see that it's hard for you to read, so I will quote myself. [quote]Helping people is in no way a negative thing and naysayers should be ashamed of themselves.[/quote] Nothing mentioned about sherpas. I said helping people isn't negative and people who disagree with that should be ashamed. [quote]I said it before, and I'll say it again. Sherpas in trials aren't little angels going around helping people, and I will never praise them as such. People like you only go to show how correct that statement is. You want people to praise the little good they do, but as soon as someone says something negative about them you start telling them to keep their noses out of what they're doing.[/quote] Perhaps you should unpucker your butthole. People help for all kinds of reasons. None of which are my business. But I'm not a crybaby bitch who thinks all things should be "fair" based on an ever evolving definition of fair that appears to also vary person to person. You somehow think you're more entitled to the lighthouse than people who get carried. Is that because you tried harder? Is that because you did it the "right" way? Dude, get over yourself. We are all entitled to everything on this disc we can accomplish. How we accomplish it, short of cheating, is not your concern. Maybe you shouldn't play video games if you get this butthurt by how people enjoy their time.
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You're literally in a thread about sherpas in trials, and you're pretending that you're not talking about sherpas in trials? Seriously, you can quote yourself all you want, you're still talking about the same thing. Yes, I think people that get to the lighthouse legitimately deserve to it, and people that get carried there do not. And before you go flipping out about me being elitist, I haven't even been to the lighthouse in year 2 because the competition is too strong for my skill level. I know it may be hard for you to understand, but trials is supposed to be a competitive environment, not a hand-out. People that want a participation prize shouldn't be at the lighthouse.
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[quote]You're literally in a thread about sherpas in trials, and you're pretending that you're not talking about sherpas in trials? Seriously, you can quote yourself all you want, you're still talking about the same thing. [/quote] Uh, in that last sentence I was not talking strictly about sherpas. I had no idea I wasn't allowed to veer off topic, no matter how slight. Thanks for righting that wrong. [quote]Yes, I think people that get to the lighthouse legitimately deserve to it, and people that get carried there do not. And before you go flipping out about me being elitist, I haven't even been to the lighthouse in year 2 because the competition is too strong for my skill level. [/quote] So find someone to carry you or stop complaining about people who find alternative ways to complete content. [quote]I know it may be hard for you to understand, but trials is supposed to be a competitive environment, not a hand-out. People that want a participation prize shouldn't be at the lighthouse.[/quote] A participation trophy would have been if Bungie had figured out some way to nerf the competition. Players finding alternative routes to the Lighthouse is not a participation trophy. Perhaps you don't know what a participation trophy is?
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Sitting on a bench while your team wins a competition and then getting a prize for it is the same as getting a participation trophy. Also in majority of games, real money transactions result in a permanent ban on your account. Now however people tend to go around that by "asking" for donations in exchange for their services. This is just as corrupt as paying someone a USD amount for an in game item, and it should not be accepted, let alone applauded.
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Here's where your entire argument goes off the rails...why do you give a shit what other people do? It's not cheating. It's not cheesing. I don't care if someone wants to buy their way to the Lighthouse. I think it's stupid and a waste of money, but from a gamer standpoint I just don't care. Even if I came across that guy and his sherpas in ToO and I lost. Boo -blam!-ing hoo. Well, better toughen up and try again. Or I can quit. Either way, mind your own business. People who complain about this stupid bullshit sound like whiny children who aren't getting what other people have. They sound like their desires aren't being met and they're going to let everyone know how unhappy they are. I simply do not care how other people complete content that they paid for, short of cheating.
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Well said bro.
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Not especially.