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originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
originally posted in: Akka is alive
2/3/2016 7:35:22 PM
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Great post. I think that this goes to prove that the Worm Gods are in fact duping the Hive into believing that they are going to become the Darkness' ultimate truth if/when they destroy all other life. By forcing the Hive to bind themselves to the Worm Gods the Worm Gods have essentially turned the entire Hive race into their own personal energy collectors. The Hive go into the physical realm and kill everything and therefore make the Worm Gods even more powerful in turn and when there is nothing else left the Worm Gods then devour the Hive Gods and thus they become the ultimate truth of the Darkness. Oryx had just become powerful enough to overcome Akka, much as he had overcome his own sisters numerous times to gain his power. However Akka was, as you point out, not destroyed so now Akka is even more powerful than it was before. I believe the reason why Guardians "Cant be Taken" by Oryx is because we are already Taken, just we were taken by the Light instead of the Darkness. Oryx's Taken, as far as I know, do not feed him tribute, he gets that from the physical Hive, therefore the tribute created by his Taken goes directly to the Darkness. When a being is taken they can do "unnatural" things and have new abilities. Is this not the same for Guardians as compared to their original form? Can we not wield weapons of manifested energy and perform skills that are otherwise impossible to a lesser version of our species? I argue that once "taken" whether by the Light (through Ghosts) or the Darkness (by Oryx) you no longer are yourself, you become a conduit of direct energy collection for whichever side you were taken by. This means the Traveler is essentially Akka's and the other Worm Gods, counterpart on the side of the Light and in an attempt to gather energy for the Light, as it will not be able to do so any longer, it created the Ghosts to create "taken" to feed the Light tribute. I personally believe that the Traveler is not benevolent as we are meant to believe. I feel that the Light and the Darkness are two sides of the same coin. The Darkness attempting ultimate victory through destruction of all life that is "unworthy" to choose survival at any cost over death and the Light through the elevation of species it deems worthy to feed it tribute. The Light and the Darkness are only interested in the destruction/removal of the other so that they will be the only "God" left.
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  • I would agree with your reply with the exception of a few points. Taken do not take tribute from the killings, for they do not have a worm to feed. Also, the Traveler IS a good guy, just a selfish one. If you read the Dreams of Alpha Lupi cards, it shows the thoughts of the Traveler.

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  • But the worm feeds tribute to the Hive (Oryx). I believe the Taken Oryx creates feed tribute directly to the Darkness as they are still participating in the "Sword Logic" of killing everything but do not gain in strength themselves. That energy has to go somewhere. But does the Darkness not also believe itself to be "good" or at least on the correct side of the argument? ;) philosophy is such a fun game.

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  • The Taken do not take tribute just as the Fallen, Vex, and Cabal do not take tribute. The only reason the Hive take tribute is to feed their worms. (See Fragment XXIX) The sword logic is only present in Hive Throne Worlds, since they have separate laws existing in those realms. As for your last point: Yes, the Darkness thinks it is right. However, in an earlier statement you said the Light/Darkness wanted to use proxy armies to be the only super power in the universe. That is incorrect. They both believe that their way is the right way, but that is different from planning to take over the universe 'just because.'

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