originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
It would appear that the worms were imprisoned in the fundament, likely by the traveler or whoever created it, the Sky. The worms do not appear native to the fundament and the Leviathan appears to be the agent of the traveler acting as the warden over the worms, trying to warn the species of the fundament from listening to the worms. He knows the hive were tricked
Of course, the hive ignored the leviathans warnings and accepted the worms larvae. The interesting thing, is that the conditions of which the hive accepted the larvae, to prevent their species from extinction from the God wave was all a lie. The concept of the god wave was planted in the hive kings mind by his worm familiar. The worm gods further told the hive that only by accepting their larvae would the hive be strong enough to escape the fundament and the God wave. When the hive escape the fundament and see the traveler, the worms say it was the source of the God wave. However, as the leviathan is about to be killed, it asks the hive if they knew who really caused the God wave.
It appears it was all a ruse of the worms. They use the threat of the God wave to make a weak species like the proto hive desperate enough to accept their bargain. Then they blame the sky and the traveler as the source of the God wave, when in fact it is the worms themselves.
In a way, the hives are victims of the worm lies. If the hive had said no, there would be no God wave, because the worms needed a species of the fundament to accept the larvae so they couldn't kill them all. But once the hive accepted, the worms followed through and used the God wave to kill off the remaining and now unneeded species in the fundament as well as show the hive that they were right in accepting the deal because look what they avoided.
And the hive would be all to willing to accept the thought that this light filled traveler was the cause. As the worms stated, it was a bait star. A bait star being a trick used by predators of the proto hive in the fundament in which a calming light would be dangled in front of them, but if they went to touch it, they would be grabbed by a tentacle and killed. They feared and avoided the light. So fearing the traveler would be a natural response. Can't be good, just bait for death.
Very clever deception from the darkness. Though you'd expect nothing less.
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I know, I know im late. However, youre wrong. The traveller caused the god wave to destroy every species on fundament so the worm gods couldnt find a host for their larvae and escape. The traveller did in fact cause the god wave, not the worm gods
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Only a year late :). I would just say re-read the first 15 verses of the BoS without the prejudice of the traveler causing the god wave. You will find that the only mention of the traveler being the source of the God wave is all from the worms. As such, it could very easily be biased. And the leviathan, says the traveler is aware of and values the life of the fundament. And when the hive make orbit, the leviathan is asking who told the hive the traveler created the God wave. Now, either the leviathan is lying or the worms. Based on the motivation of the two sides, it was the worms trickery. Remember, the entire hive origin, the kings death, Taoxs betrayal, was all built on the worm larvae in the jar (oh bearer mine) whispering secret fears of the ominous god wave coming.
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The Traveller caused the God wave by being the 53rd moon in the sky of Fundament. That's how it causes the god wave. Furthermore, leviathan never denies the god wave's existence, and when the siblings found the worms in the depths of Fundament, they even felt the god wave begin
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Edited by A Rising Wind: 1/9/2017 8:37:58 PMThe God wave definitely occurred, it's a matter of who caused it. In verse 2:8, the leviathan says: "Sisters of Aurash, open your eyes. Who made you monsters? Who summoned the wave? Make peace." And in 1:8, the leviathan says: "Beloved fundament, refuge of trillions. The sky treasures this deep place" The only evidence of the hive ever had that the traveler caused the wave was the worms telling them so. In 1:9, the worms gods blame the sky for the coming wave: "They have arranged the moons to drown you, in fear of your potential" and in that card, it shows the worms manipulating the fundament environment. They were capable of doing it themselves (the wave). And at the end of the bos, verse 5:7, forever and a blade, oryx says "I've considered returning to the fundament. Learning what became of the God wave." The hive never actually witnessed the God wave. They took the worms word on what happened back in 2:7 Either the leviathan and the traveler were lying that they treasured the fundament but then destroyed it anyways (which is contrary to their entire character development to date). Or the worms used it as a manipulation to convince the hive to take the bargain (which fits their narrative perfectly). Re read the bos with those two concepts and see what makes sense. But most believe the traveler did cause the wave, because they believe the literal explanation the worms gave.