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Edited by AYRES: 1/17/2016 8:14:55 PM
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I Want This Crucible Back! (+PvP Event)

I don't care if you say it was unbalanced. The OG meta is so much better than this 1k stare and last word camp-fest. Remember when crucible was fast-paced, exhilarating and you truly felt powerful. Now what are we left with? The crucible's physics have been thrown out the window, there are ridiculous hit detection problems (https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/183980619/0/0) , lag still reigns supreme and almost everyone feels wronged by the hefty nerfs on their classes and playstyles. Its not only these issues which are ruining PvP for a lot of us, its also the fact that the loadout choice for this meta is even more limited than ever. The fact that we couldn't bring Y1 guns forward means we can only really use 1 shotgun and 1 sniper (1000 yard stare + Conspiracy theory D). Oh and what about fusions? Well it couldn't be clearer that Bungie indeed to nerf fusions to the point of non-existence. [b]I have a proposition even if it may sound ridiculous. As part of a three week event in regular crucible I would ask that every nerf to every subclass, weapon and perk (this includes field scout, reducing all the vanilla perks by 50% etc.) be undone[/b] and that you, Bungie, ask [b]what was more fun[/b].The current one or that one. I feel like you've forgotten that we play video games for that reason. Either remove crucible or fix it but don't dangle a rotten carrot in front of our faces when you know we are starving for content. A great idea from Reegee: [quote]They should have a 'lab' playlist like they used to have in uncharted. Test new modes/weapons/balancing in a weekly playlist.[/quote]

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  • The HoW meta was more fun than this one IMO because of the shotgun battles

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  • No the fact that we couldn't bring year 1 weapons over means they're useless everywhere EXCEPT crucible. Again the pvp crowd beats the pve crowd in a game that is heavily pve based.

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  • Bump! I hope Bungie acknowledges this.

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  • I love this idea. Give us a chance to play the way it used to be and vote to take it or leave it

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  • I actually used to play destiny's pvp before the nerfs. Now I just do pve and hope my favorite guns don't fall prey to bungie. I can't wait for the division so I don't have to deal with this crap anymore. The day it comes out is the day this game gets put down. 21days of gameplay and I probably spent a day in the crucible, it's so bad/sad. I'm not awful at it either... It's just not fun. There should be a vanilla destiny mode. Watch Ttk servers empty lol. To 21 days in division!

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  • They should have a 'lab' playlist like they used to have in uncharted. Test new modes/weapons/balancing in a weekly playlist.

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    • The 3 week event where everything is reverted sounds like a really good idea. I started playing Destiny right when the Suros Regime was nerfed so I never actually got to play the original meta but it seems interesting. I think a lot of new players from Year 2 would also be interested in playing in a Crucible where Auto Rifles and Fusion Rifles were actually really good. It might also be a good idea to instead of making this an event just create a Lab Playlist, like a lot of other people have mentioned before, where Bungie gets to just mess with weapon balance as much as they want and we give them feedback. It seems like a much smarter way to get community feedback than what they're doing right now which is just releasing the updates and waiting to see how angry everyone gets.

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    • Favered, liked, thumbs up. I want vanilla destiny back. 2.0 sucks. Destiny slow paced. This game should be rated 75+ for pensioners only.. -.-

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    • Lmfao shut up. Your looking through some very obvious rose colored glasses. No one. Let me repeat that, NO ONE, liked the "OG" Meta. The TTK was so fast that you HAD to use Hand Cannons. Thorn was awful. TLW was just as bad. It wasn't fun. It wasn't skill. It was a twitch shooter at the time and if you want that, I heard of this game called CoD which is released yearly for people like you. Bungie wants to push Destiny's PvP towards Halo TTK, which requires more skill. Which requires nerfs to bring damages down. Which is what's happening. Don't like it? Leave.

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      • Agreed. It is do slow paced now, and the ridiculous aim assist on certain sniper rifles turn it into a sniping match for the less talented. Primaries are almost obsolete. Shotguns I can deal with. Remove aim assist from snipers so that only those with steady aim can use them and the game would be much more fast paced and fun.

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      • Day one? Heck no. Roll back Fusion Rifles to vanilla. Roll all weapons except hand cannons to and FR HoWs status. Slight BD buff. Lag and glitch fix. Then we would be golden.

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          Oh god this.. I've been on the forums all day but this might be the worst post I've come across. "Bungie, plz undo all work you've done in the past 16 months, thx." Needs to be more fast paced? Fine, I don't wanna hear more about my Titans shoulder charge being OP. 1.0 Meta, when shotguns were like snipers? Fine, don't send me hate mail about my Conspiracy Theory is picking you off from 40 feet. Can we stop this "grass is always greener" bullsh*t and appreciate what we have?

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          • I personally like this meta and feel it is very balanced. The issues I have our melees not registering (taking my melee charge, too) and hit registration with TLW especially. Although fusion rifles definitely need to buffed.

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            • We need to roll all the way back to pre-auto nerf. The initial nerf to Vex may need to stay because that thing was ridiculous and still great after, but everything else should go back. Fusions used to keep shotties and snipers in line. You saw all three in matches. Autos kept HCs in line. Keep the buffs to scouts and pulses, remove all the old nerfs save for possible the first Vex one and the one to Grenades and Horseshoes

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              • Bump

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              • Old meta was awful. It was 80% blade dancer competitive meta. Year 2 meta was great with pulse rifles and class balance. (Except the SunBreaker) December update plunged us into shit once again.

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                • Agree with everything except the bit about last word. I love my last word <3

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                  • The games constantly evolving and not always in the way most of us want but now we're forced to try new things and I think that's pretty cool too.

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                    • Yes, let them restore it to the Yr One original meta ****Dusting off my Vex Mythoclast and Suros Regime.

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                    • BUMP BUMP BUMP

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                    • Faster TTK for primaries is needed in crucible.

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                    • YES. I've NEVER encountered a First Person Shooter that gimped the primary option for both new and veteran players of ANY properly balanced FPS (Auto Rifles) to the point where it is punishing to use!

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                    • Bungie should either accept the fact that there's ALWAYS a top tier weapon in multiplayer games and leave it at that or go back to basics like the ability to use the enemies weapons because they are friggin awesome

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                      • If this was done, the Crucible would actually be fun and balanced once again. Not to mention that PvE would benefit from the weapon changes. If only Bungie listened to good feedback.

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                        • Agreed! This would be AMAZING!

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                          • You realise that literally everyone will go back to using auto rifles then and no one will use anything else. Sort of limits you to just the one archetype when there is so much choice now. Just because people have leant towards these weapons doesn't make them unbalanced; in fact it is quite the opposite. Last word shines at close range as it should and mida rules at long ranges in terms of primaries. Depending on your skill level you might be able to outplay someone at close range. 1000-yard stare is good since it can res snipe and it has a decent fire rate and the perks allow it to be modifiable whereas black spindle, while even more powerful, is locked to the one scope and some people don't like that.

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