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originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
1/11/2016 9:37:17 PM
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Good post. I still doubt that the heart of the Garden is actually a worm though. I think Quria's understanding of the power of worship was vital, but I don't think it's the captured worm that the Vex worship. We know Oryx's power of Taking comes from the Darkness itself, and NOT the worms. Eris Morn claims the same power responsible for the Taken (the Darkness) is the same as the power that was growing in the Black Garden, suggesting that the Garden's heart is the Darkness. [quote]Oryx wields this power. But Oryx did not make it. We face the same flower we met in the Black Garden. (The Taken)[/quote] Following talks with Bungie about the story, Gameinformer also states that the heart is a fragment of the Darkness. [quote]In particular, at least some part of the conflict arises from the Vex possession of a fragment of the Darkness, which is hidden in a place called the Black Garden ([url=http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2015/08/24/what-s-going-on-in-destiny-s-story-anyway.aspx?PostPageIndex=5]source[/url])[/quote]
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  • I agree. The worms are the creation of the Worm Gods who themselves are servants of the Darkness. So it could not be the worm that they are worshiping, however it could be a conduit of sorts to the Darkness itself. Oryx and the Worm Gods are the only beings we know of that have actually communicated directly with the Darkness. I think the Vex, in the black garden, found a way to commune with the Darkness, and figured out a way that the Darkness itself become a physical entity in our universe. They were worshiping the Darkness in the black garden in an effort to give it energy it needed to be transferred into the Sol Progeny. With the power of the Darkness manifested into the physical realm they then could then rewrite the history of the universe to make themselves the only conceived physical form. This therefore would make the Vex the Darkness' ultimate outcome as there would be no other forms of life that could "fight" them.

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  • I still think of the 'worms' as that little black orb in Touch of Malice. A darkness worm, not the Ahamkara/wyrm/dragon/worm...

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  • So, if the Black Heart was a piece of the Darkness itself, and since we destroyed the Black Heart, this means that it is possible to destroy the Darkness as a whole.

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  • I'm inclined to agree. Random hypothesis: It could also be possible that a piece of the Darkness is only just a piece because it's missing other properties of the Darkness. For example, maybe complete Darkness exists in many dimensions at once, while a mere piece of Darkness can only exist in one. If this kind of thing is True, complete Darkness could have physical and metaphysical properties that make it much harder, or even impossible to destroy.

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  • So what you're saying is that the Black Heart is essentially a type of Horcrux for the Black Garden?

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  • I've always considered to worms to be the embodiment of darkness, thereby being the darkness itself. Is there solid evidence to refute my belief?

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  • Edited by KAGEHOSHI-: 1/12/2016 12:00:23 AM
    The Books of Sorrow states that the worms live in the Darkness, but they are not the Darkness. [quote]We are the Worm your God, but we are not the Deep Itself. We only move within it. (Verse 2:9 — Crusaders)[/quote]

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  • nice.

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