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Jesus was alive that's historical fact, raising from the dead and all that other junk is contested to say the least. He was regarded by the Romans as nothing but a minor cult leader in his own day.
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  • Actually evidence is starting to suggest that the jesus from the bible didn't actually exist.

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  • Iv seen the "evidence" and i don't believe it. I don't think Jesus was the Messiah or magic or raised from the dead but there is enough non-christian evidence to at least reasonably say a man named Jesus lived.

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  • A lot of historians and theologians are starting to think that the jesus in the bible didn't exist and are making some very good points as to why. A big one for me is that there isn't a single piece of physical evidence that jesus existed, if he was as important to his apostles as the bible makes out their would surely be atleast a couple of relics.

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  • You keep saying Jesus from the Bible im talking about jesus as a historical figure. The Romans regarded Christians as a fringe cult at the time so they slaughtered many that might have been able to give a first hand account and raised many of the settlements to the ground which would explain the lack of artifacts. My main reasoning for believing there was at least a man named Jesus is quite simply that the best lies are made of half truths. So many people mentioned him and so many in his own time were willing to die for him even after he died that there had to at least be a man that could inspire all this. People won't die for a lie.

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  •  [quote]the words of Bart Ehrman (who himself believes the stories were built on a historical kernel): “What sorts of things do pagan authors from the time of Jesus have to say about him? Nothing. As odd as it may seem, there is no mention of Jesus at all by any of his pagan contemporaries. There are no birth records, no trial transcripts, no death certificates; there are no expressions of interest, no heated slanders, no passing references – nothing. In fact, if we broaden our field of concern to the years after his death – even if we include the entire first century of the Common Era – there is not so much as a solitary reference to Jesus in any non-Christian, non-Jewish source of any kind. I should stress that we do have a large number of documents from the time – the writings of poets, philosophers, historians, scientists, and government officials, for example, not to mention the large collection of surviving inscriptions on stone and private letters and legal documents on papyrus. In none of this vast array of surviving writings is Jesus’ name ever so much as mentioned.”[/quote]

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  • Tacitus and a few others wrote about him but this is easy enough to explain. There's not much non-christian writing about him simply because non Christians didn't care about him they would have thought him insignificant.

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  • Nah, there would be a reference, the Romans documented everything around that time.

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