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1/6/2016 7:28:00 PM
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Brady is the GOAT. No discussion. To say he isn't is simply foolish. Also, hope ya'll know that the Broncos and Colts have cheated way more than the Patriots. If these current HGH allegations were against Brady, the media would be quick to attack the Patriots and Brady, but instead they are quick to defend Peyton. It's so funny to see how the media spins things. Oh and before anyone says deflategate, if you knew anything about the situation you would know Brady and the Patriots never actually cheated. Especially considering how in the Wells report never found any conclusive evidence in the extremely long investigation, and actually found that the Colts balls were under-inflated, that the refs didn't check the balls prior to the game, the refs didn't check most of the Colts balls as half time, and there was no investigation on whether or not the Colts tampered with the balls. Spy gate? Oh you mean something the Broncos did more recently? Something the entire league does? Something that isn't a reflection of the quarterback? Tuck rule? Something that was in the rule book? Snowplow? Something that literally isn't against the rules? [spoiler][quote]When you are consistently outplayed and outcoached by the same team year-after-year (or worse, lose to them in a Super Bowl) you WANT to believe -- you NEED to believe -- that the only reason you can't match up is because of some mysterious Patriots' black magic voodoo cheating. To keep your sanity, you make up fairy tales to soothe yourself. I get that, I really do. I used to feel the same way about the New York Yankees when they were good. I sympathize. Unfortunately for you, though, your tidy little bedtime story is a lie. Find yourself a good therapist to help you deal with your issues instead. Get well soon.[/quote][/spoiler]
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  • Ryan leaf lmao

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  • Edited by Gary36: 1/7/2016 2:18:00 AM
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  • Correction, Joe Montana is the G.O.A.T. 4-0 in Superbowls. 3 Superbowl MVP's. Brady is up there though, but not on his level.

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  • I never understood why Brady got shot for underdeflated balls when Rodgers uses over inflated ones.

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  • Edited by HiLife: 1/6/2016 8:07:56 PM
    That divisional playoff game last year against the ravens cemented Brady as the goat imo

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  • Well I mean, that game was predominantly a rushing win for the Patriots. I think the Super Bowl win cemented him as the goat, and the fact that he won 12 games this season with 17 season ending injuries and many more single or multiple missed game injuries of key players is really the icing on top. I mean, he's been able to get a first round bye without an O-line this season, and without receivers the second half. That's crazy to me.

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  • Brady's better, I agree with you. But that win in the Superbowl was all Butler. If he didn't make that phenomenal play, Brady would be 3-3 in the Superbowl and I think we'd be having a different discussion as to who is the greatest of all time.

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  • And the two Super Bowls against the Giants were lucky catches as well, so Brady could also be 5-1. Either way, the number of playoff wins, and Brady's record during the playoffs makes your point null and void.

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  • I wouldn't discount the losses to the Giants. Brady and his offensive line got punched in the mouth throughout both those games.

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  • Edited by HiLife: 1/6/2016 8:18:37 PM
    Rushing win?.. Edit: And all your points about this season are spot on. It is amazing

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