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originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
12/26/2015 2:15:36 PM
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I believe the ahamkara are creatures of the void and can take any form they wish. I do not think the dead white worm was one of the worms. But a ahamkara that has taken over its dead body. To guide them down to the deep.
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  • Can you provide supporting text from the grimoire to show what the void is, and to support he Ahamkara void hypothesis?

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  • Yes of course. After work in shall show you.

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  • There's an AnonPig thread somewhere on here (just search the #AnonPig tag) detailing his theories on the Ahamkara, I believe that is what he was drawing from.

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  • Edited by KAGEHOSHI-: 12/26/2015 6:17:37 PM
    Found it. Seems like the guy is not very fond of citation. He assumes that the Traveler is Alpha Lupi, despite Alpha Lupi speaking about the Traveler in 2nd person (speaking to the Traveler, referring to it as "you") in Ghost Fragment: The Traveler (1, 2, and 3). He assumes the Traveler came from the void. He provides no support from the grimoire as to his definition of the void, and no support for his claim that the Traveler or the Ahamkara are from there. Everything else is just speculation at best, especially about the Ahamkara taking the forms of bones instead of truly dying. The worm god Akka was killed (worms are Ahamkara, or are very close to them), and it still lingered even in death since it's described as "dead but not gone." Hive gods like Crota and Oryx are similar also; they don't simply just die. The Destiny universe supports the notion that death is not a definitive end for very powerful creatures already without adding shape-shifting to the mix. And no, don't say Akka just shape-shifted into a corpse, because Oryx wouldn't get the power of Taking unless he killed Akka.

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  • I believe the Traveler too is Alpha Lupi. In her comatose state, she dreams. Sometimes she dreams of her own actions, and she talks to herself. She dreams of her terraforming, her journey

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  • Interesting, though in Ghost Fragment: Darkness 2, Alpha Lupi presents a very negative view of life, which doesn't really make sense for the Traveler who has been helping life flourish.

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  • I feel like she's just talking about how life is. A sun doesn't complain about it's death, but living things have a habit of complaint and denial.

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