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Edited by TheSolidChrome: 12/26/2015 9:54:46 PM
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Blast Radius of HoS is a F'ing joke!

Yeah, the blast radius of the hammers are a -blam!-ing joke in its current state. I made a 5min video showing clips of how weak the hammers have become and how inconsistent they are. You think I'm bullshiting? Just watch the video and you will see what I'm talking about. This is not me crying, I want CONSISTENT! If i hit someone with a hammer I want a kill in return, I wanted to be rewarded for being accurate not punished. Just make the Blast radius of the hammer i bit bigger and it will solve itself. Edit1: For the people saying: "Golden Gun has no blast radius and kills on impact, so HoS needs to kill on impact too". Difference between HoS and GG: GG: insta-kill lazer beam with a big ass hitbox (almost impossible to miss) in 1st person (very easy to aim) with 0 travel time and unlimited range (in PvP) HoS: Has travel time (which was increased with 2.1), effected by gravity, doesn't go in a straight line, 3rd person aim (which can be very awkward) HoS works basicly like a rocket, you can get as accurate as you can with them. Do you expect from a rocket to kill someone only if it directly impacts them? I'm not saying that the hammers should have the same power as a rocket (not by a longshot), but when I throw a hammer right next to/in front of the enemy I except to get a kill. Not to mention that it is almost impossible to hit a player who uses blink/shadestep/twilight garrison. So yeah we need a little blast radius buff to make this super CONSISTENT again, because right now its the most inconsistent super in the game along with arcblade. And even when you land a DIRECT hit, it fails to kill the player which is very sad. Clink link below for another clip of how inconsistent the super is: http://xboxclips.com/Crystic/8c6a4df9-f4b4-4a80-a4d7-fea21d1db28a Here is another one: https://youtu.be/k1UveUrzZYQ?t=262 Keep giving links to videos where a hammer should but didnt kill the target, Bungie needs to adress this.

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  • [b][i][u]SUNBREAKERS[/u][/i][/b] Here's what we know; Pre nerf this super was over powered because of its amount of starting health. It's was a mere 5% to high to be one shorted by snipers (not counting spindle). Some also brought up that the super lasted longer than most supers (Accept stormtrance) Post nerf all the Titans are complaining (including myself even though I run striker) The hammers are either not registering or are just not dealing damage at their anticipated range. Cauterize still works and they are able to be 1 shoted. Now what went wrong with the nerf is a matter of opinion. The aiming mechanics (in my opinion) is broken. The hitbox is to small and the damage is terrible. However the overall health is great. What's you opinion? Post down here. Don't be afraid to criticize if I made a mistake or an incorrect about something.

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    • Looks like lag to me. Kill registers seconds after the kill.

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      • I've lost hope with this community. When the HoS has a problem, everyone immediately insults each other on their high chairs. Constantly comparing HoS to GG when they are two completely different supers, might as well compare Stormcaller to Arc Blade. And the instant blame on lag or unskilled really shows what this community is full of. I've lost my faith in this community, and nothing they can do now can change that.

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      • You guys are idiots, it was to powerful to begin with and was a crutch. I watched absolute shit players own in crucible as a result. People that are good are still able to rack up kills, people that suck like you whine endlessly. Make way for the new Titards!

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        • Agreed

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        • Bump

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        • I main a warlock and I agree that it definitely isn't a competitive super anymore

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        • Only watched the 1st video. You miss a lot. That's all.

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          • And all you could find was three clips

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            • Sunbreaker(s) are a joke now, I rather just put on Suncharge than throwing Hammers these days.

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              • GG is a laser? I'm pretty sure some dude made a montage wearing a twilight garrison dodging all kinds of GG shots. Also some were extremely close, so the hit box isn't as big as you think.

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                • Edited by StormiDutch: 12/26/2015 4:23:46 PM
                  Rewarded for being accurate? Okay then actually learn to hit then, some of those hammer were over 20ft. away from a target and the guy you killed on rift was clearly lagging (seeing the delay between the killing blow till death). No buff required for hammer of sol, it's still one of the best if not the best super. You should try bladedancer and see how broken the autoaim on arc blade currently is before you start complaining about sunbreaker. In trials last week I literally missed another hunter that was stuck in a corner 5 times because he used single jumps.

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                  • As someone mentioned in another post, bungie tweaked the radius for HoS, but forgot to proportionally adjust the when a hammer will explode. This causes the hammer to blow up and the targeted guardian to not be in the kill zone, even when the guardian would have been hit directly.

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                  • Maybe if you hit the ppl with the hammers it would kill them. You shouldn't be rewarded for hitting the area around your target. It doesn't work that way with the bow so why should it with hammers?

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                    • If your bad at aiming with it use sun charge or sun spot If you suck why use forge master if you can't aim

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                      • haha you scrub. learn 2 aim noob. ofcourse you wont get any kills with ur noob hammers if you take ages 2 aim. get gud noob thats why you titans got a nerf cuz you need no skill to use a Hammer of sol. try n get a kill with golden gun or quiver you noob.

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                      • I agree. Sometimes I feel like I'm throwing laser guided missiles. Other times I feel like I'm throwing marshmallows. I don't know if it's server lag causing the inaccuracy or what but I hate it.

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                        • [quote] Edit1: For the people saying: "Golden Gun has no blast radius and kills on impact, so HoS needs to kill on impact too". Difference between HoS and GG: GG: insta-kill lazer beam with a big ass hitbox (almost impossible to miss) in 1st person (very easy to aim) with 0 travel time and unlimited range (in PvP) HoS: Has travel time (which was increased with 2.1), effected by gravity, doesn't go in a straight line, 3rd person aim (which can be very awkward) [/quote] I agree so very much with this whole thing.

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                        • I watched some more of the videos, and I'm just going to say blast radius is fine prox detonation is -blam!-ed and blowing up too early.

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                          • Doesn't it still track and have twice as many shots as a golden gun? Haha, yeah... stfu.

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                            • Edited by Apex of War: 12/27/2015 4:33:58 AM
                              Post nerf cross map double kill ^ I don't do much in PvP anymore, but I can definitely see where you're coming from. Maybe it's a bit detection issue?

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                            • Edited by alternate geek: 12/27/2015 2:12:08 AM
                              [quote]Yeah, the blast radius of the hammers are a -blam!-ing joke in its current state. I made a 5min video showing clips of how weak the hammers have become and how inconsistent they are. You think I'm bullshiting? Just watch the video and you will see what I'm talking about. This is not me crying, I want CONSISTENT! If i hit someone with a hammer I want a kill in return, I wanted to be rewarded for being accurate not punished. Just make the Blast radius of the hammer i bit bigger and it will solve itself. Edit1: For the people saying: "Golden Gun has no blast radius and kills on impact, so HoS needs to kill on impact too". Difference between HoS and GG: GG: insta-kill lazer beam with a big ass hitbox (almost impossible to miss) in 1st person (very easy to aim) with 0 travel time and unlimited range (in PvP) HoS: Has travel time (which was increased with 2.1), effected by gravity, doesn't go in a straight line, 3rd person aim (which can be very awkward) HoS works basicly like a rocket, you can get as accurate as you can with them. Do you expect from a rocket to kill someone only if it directly impacts them? I'm not saying that the hammers should have the same power as a rocket (not by a longshot), but when I throw a hammer right next to/in front of the enemy I except to get a kill. Not to mention that it is almost impossible to hit a player who uses blink/shadestep/twilight garrison. So yeah we need a little blast radius buff to make this super CONSISTENT again, because right now its the most inconsistent super in the game along with arcblade. And even when you land a DIRECT hit, it fails to kill the player which is very sad. Clink link below for another clip of how inconsistent the super is: http://xboxclips.com/Crystic/8c6a4df9-f4b4-4a80-a4d7-fea21d1db28a Here is another one: https://youtu.be/k1UveUrzZYQ?t=262 Keep giving links to videos where a hammer should but didnt kill the target, Bungie needs to adress this.[/quote] also give it back some of its tracking as it doesn't work at all

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                              • This game is a -blam!-ing joke deal with it

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                              • Stop crying crytan

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                              • Edited by Midha: 12/26/2015 9:25:13 AM
                                Still better than Bladedancer.. You guys get our abilities, but better and faster. Hungering Blade Ranged Melee A Blast Radius in the first place Armor ( Oh, and you also don't need to sun shoulder charge them 3 times for them to die ) Only thing is you don't get blink. ( Titan-Skating ) You guys whined about it and it got nerfed, but you still keep whining about it. We've been talking about how our elevation is glitched on bladedancer and no longer one hit kills when you are below or above the target, even if the blade makes direct contact with the body, [b]BUT GUESS WHAT? NOBODY CARED. BUNGIE DIDN'T BOTHER. YOU BRUSHED IT OFF AS OUR BITCHING. [/b] Now they're bitching about stormcallers. Notice how you hear no hunters asking for stormcaller nerfs? At least that I can see. Only Titans claiming pre-nerf sunbreaker wasn't as strong as stormcaller? [b]HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE GENERALIZED? HUH? MAKES YOU WANT TO SAY "BUT IM NOT LIKE THAT!" DOESNT IT? [/b] Oh well, screw you guys. TL;DR Hypocritical Bandwagon Titans and Victimization

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