Honestly took me a long time to get my first to drop. Now after 15 or so of them, I think I have gotten damn near every perk combination possible. Four or so have really good rolls
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Crucible drops or the reward from the weekly bounties? Got mine from weekly bounties
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Most all of them from cruc drops. Game has probably dropped closer to 20 of them, now that I really think about it. Sucks because my wife and a couple friends can't seem to find a single one, much less a good roll on one.