Because [i]Homo Sapiens Sapiens[/i] is an Omnivorous species and Id have to pay for supplements for my diet if I didn't eat a balanced amount of meat and vegetation because my metabolic processes require things like protein that are more efficiently gained by consuming a small chunk of animal meat than eating a pound and a half of peanuts with every meal.
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Ya, that's been proven false. Plenty of protein sources out there that don't require the actual blood sacrifice of an animal. Like eggs, cheese, milk, nuts, beans, or anything that produces naturals oils and fats like avocados, coconut. Peanuts aren't nuts either, they don't come from a tree.
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[quote]blood sacrifice[/quote] Look around. Protest to a lion that it is treating the baby buffalo it's preparing to eat with 'inhumane' cruelty. Tell it that it can take vitamin supplements instead. Human intelligence is a gift and a curse. Morals are a human contrivance. Have you not heard of the prides of lions that ravish villages in/near Zimbabwe? It's the circle of life, and although I agree that humans have a superiority complex with "ego over eco", I enjoy meat knowing that some product-of-evolution predator would enjoy mine.
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Edited by SnakePayne86: 12/25/2015 12:36:22 AMAll I said is that it's absolutely false that you need to eat meat to survive. Just remember, anything will eat anything to survive, but now, we have a choice and if someone chooses to not eat meet, I'd say good for them, they will probably live longer, cause less damage to the environment, and save money.. I do eat meat myself.
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Technically...there is no specific food necessary to survive (including meat as you said). I could go on forever about the saving money argument, living longer argument, saving the environment argument, but I see this going nowhere.
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It's estimated that 25% of greenhouse gases can be attributed to the mass production of livestock, from clear cutting, transportation, and production. I know people don't care, as long as they get their t-bone. I'd eat one right now
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Well that's a fallacy... If you don't eat meat, you don't need to take supplements - you still get plenty of nutrients and essentials from eating fruit and veg, trust me, my girlfriend and her mum have been veggie/vegan for several years and neither have needed to take supplements. Supplements are only for those with a deficiency - otherwise there's literally no reason to take them, they provide no extra benefits.
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Humans are omnivores. Why would you fight that. Granted we should treat our livestock better(I'm a huge proponent of it). Regardless, meat has always been a part of humans diets.... What's your deal?
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My only deal is the fallacy surrounding vitamins... And I'm not against eating meat in any way - well yes the way livestock is treated is stupidly cruel but even so I still eat meat on a general day to day basis...
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I definitely agree with you on vitamins and supplements in general. Largely unnecessary.
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Sounds like a personal problem to me
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( ? _ ? ) you mean it sounds like I have some sort of problem with what's been said? or it's more of a personal thing depending on whether or not a person would need supplements based on their health problems?
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Ok... which is it?
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Exactly!!
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Of course! I get it now, do you?
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This was a very enlightening conversation, love you too.
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Aww thank you buddy (・ω・)ノ many cuddles
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See, it's funny because you're wrong. Proteins, as well as various other nutrients and minerals such as Iron and Calcium are found to be lacking in vegetarian, and more notably Vegan, diets. While that's not to say, there are none of these essentials in either dietary choice, meats and fish contain more of them, more readily available. You should most definitely hit anyone who would tell you that eating completely planarian diets results in an adequate amount of the balanced nutrients necessary for an active lifstyle* with a stick and send them back to school. [spoiler]Active Lifestyle meaning a daily living routine involving moderate to heavy physical activity, between 4-6 hours of strenuous actions like jogging or biking. A vegan or vegetarian diet is more than nutritionally sufficient, however, for the average human lifestyle that includes 2-4 or less hours of strenuous activity as defined above. [/spoiler]
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Ok the strenuous activities could require food that could provide what's necessary more efficiently but that's why there's quorn products and if Mo Farah (I think it is at least) is the front man for it then I'm inclined to believe it's good enough. My main point here though is that vitamin supplements provide no added bonus than what's necessary for those that have a deficiency. We get more than enough from what we eat already regardless of being meat eater, veggie or vegan.
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Edited by EetnoAni: 12/24/2015 1:15:35 PMYou're an omnivore. Why fight it.
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I'm not, I'll happily eat almost anything that's actually edible - as long as there's little to no ginger in it and definitely no cinnamon in it (that'd probably kill me)... I was just saying that in standard life, we don't actually [i]need[/i] to eat meat or purchase supplements as we can get what we need from other food sources - quorn is actually pretty good though tbh...