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11/28/2015 8:48:00 AM
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Invective -- needs a buff not a nerf!

Bungie is nerfing shotguns yet again in this patch. They'll become inferior weapons and only kill within mele range. NOBODY WILL EQUIP SHOTGUNS IN PVP. Is that what Bungie wants? I happen to enjoy the SG play style. FFS! Invective, one of the few Year 1 weapons that is actually earned and not just served to everyone on a plate, is being crippled AGAIN. Itis already beaten every time by other legendary and exotic weapons bought from vendors or awarded for losing a game! After the patch it will be useless. [url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/73499171/0/0]I've been saying this for a year, even before the first time shotguns were nerfed.[/url] This is also just nonsense. My real shotgun is fully effective at 100 yards! Military SGs are lethal at over 50 paces. The game is becoming too unrealistic, e.g. vs Call of Duty.

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  • >in Iraq >fighting ISIS >gets killed by a shotgun >last words are "God pls nurf shotguns"

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    • I shot a dreg with a shotgun from 8 feet. It did 4 damage. FOUR -blam!-ING POINTS OF DAMAGE!! I can do more damage using it as a -blam!-ing club! So, THANK YOU to all those whining little crybaby bitches who are too lazy to practise and want their wins handed to them on a silver -blam!-ing platter. Your precious PvP is all nice and balanced. Happy? Are you getting more kills now? No? Hmmm... Imagine that. But thank you soooo much for making shotguns totally, completely, one hundred percent -blam!-ing useless! Since it has no use as a firearm, could you please give us the option to use it as a club? It would work better!

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    • Why does the ammo regen only work half the time? It happened to me in Yr1 as well where I would go a whole PvP match with no ammo regen. Might as well use the Burden of Proof shottie instead of wasting an exotic slot.

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    • Shotguns have been OP and overused ever since the game came out, they most definitely deserve this lol

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      • Am sorry you fag thats crap but am sick n tired of shotguns snipping me especially invective and chaperone

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        • That gun is a disease. Somehow takes less skill to use than Conspiracy Theory. Has rechargeable ammo to boot. I'm glad it's getting nerfed. My only sadness is it's not getting hit as hard as my beautiful Chaperone.

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          • Git gud scrub

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          • I'm excited to start using fusion Rifles more

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            • Edited by imKILLFACE: 11/30/2015 8:05:59 PM
              I love the invective. It's super powerful already and my favorite exotic by far.. if they buff it, it would be the number one gun in the crucible.

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            • RNG =/= actually earned... You realize all the year 1 exotic bounty weapons are now RNG guns right?

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              • Rather then changing shotguns as they are now I think bungie just needs to scrap their idea of them all together. Swap hand cannons with shot guns and increase hand cannon damage while also lowering RoF. Place shotguns in the place hand cannons occupy now. They could also leave shotguns as they are now and make two different kinds; one that fires a slug like the Chaperone, the other is a buckshot. Buckshots are characterized by what's going to happen to them in the December update. The slug type shotties would deal about 1/3 as much damage but have range about as long as a lower range auto rifle. Like a sniper this shotty wouldn't get a hip fire reticule. From mid range it would almost always lose to primaries. From father close range areas it would win if you can land about to precision shots, in close range a body shot and melee should do it. This leaves an offensive shot gun and a more defensive buckshot type.

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                • After the patch invective and chaperone will be the only useable shotties.

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                  • Invective is fine. Let's count our chickens [i][b]after[/b][/i] they hatch and see how it will turn out.

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                  • But invective is really good

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                  • Edited by CatMan: 11/30/2015 7:07:59 PM
                    It's perfect where it is, but other shotguns need adjustments. Stability for one. It like shooting in a earthquake. Lmao you said unrealistic? That what you want in a Sifi game. More stability, same range (not less bungie). We will have to see, but I got the feeling that I will not play pvp after the update. -blam!- and I just started to like it .

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                  • Ok, wait. You're complaining about Destiny being unrealistic because of the shotgun range? Are you serious? How about the magic space orbs of death? The alien machines trying to wipe out humanity? The respawn mechanic? The list would go forever. This game isn't MEANT to be realistic m8.

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                    • [quote]he game is becoming too unrealistic[/quote] Well it is a sci-fi game with aliens, space magic, worm holes, time travel and a giant freaking floating god. I don't think they're going for realistic.

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                      • You just went full retard.

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                        • Edited by grcgrdd72: 11/30/2015 6:38:04 PM
                          Well some will still use a shutgun like me. It doesnt need nerf cuz its just pretty easy to counter them. and its your fault if you got killed people complain too much you just need to outsmart

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                        • Troll or just incredibly stupid?.. Can't tell.

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                        • But that range though

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                        • TELL BUNGIE TO ADD A GRADUAL DAMAGE FALLOFF INSTEAD OF A RANGE NERF! the real problem stems from the shotguns dealing 100% damage at their max range. If shotguns did more damage depending on how close you were there would be no need for a nerf!

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                        • NURF EVERYTING! WEAPONS DU 1 DAMAGE POINT EACH! Nah, I know stuff needs to be nerfed but seriously, so much asking for nerfs is just hurting me.

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                        • Destiny is a science fiction fantasy game. The weapons don't need to behave like they would in the real world. If you get body shot by a sniper in the crucible, you might survive if you make it to cover. In the real world, whatever just hit you leaves an exit wound the size of a basketball. Also, doesn't Invective have a range enhancing node to unlock? I think it may still be effective. Effective Invective.

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                        • Edited by Tank STOppER 91: 11/30/2015 3:52:45 PM
                          I live it when shotguns are unusable in pvp not unless there a power weapon like there suppose to be in the first place Had they just made it a power weapon like heavies (same with sniper rifles) there wouldn't be a problem

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                        • Edited by PrimRoseHavoc: 11/30/2015 6:23:15 AM
                          Yep. Invective is ruined. Fourth Horseman will be a joke. Chaperone will be useless. Pretty much all the shotguns will be ruined PvP and pve wise because of some whiny kids who couldn't take a loss. Also for all you realistic guys. Think about it. If we passed a Golden Age where weapons improved. Shouldn't their range and efficiency have improved as well. As of now they don't have anywhere near the range shotguns should have. This game has the shittiest shotguns in any FPS. And now they are reducing their range even more. Because you guys don't know how to read your radar? Come on now.

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