http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/260727-trump-wont-rule-out-database-special-id-for-muslims
Edit: it appears the article is misrepresentating the interview. Ill leave the link for you to read and investigate yourself.
That being said this is concerning regardless of how you would want to spin it.
[quote]"We’re going to have to do things that we never did before. And some people are going to be upset about it, but I think that now everybody is feeling that security is going to rule,” Trump said. “And certain things will be done that we never thought would happen in this country in terms of information and learning about the enemy. And so we’re going to have to do certain things that were frankly unthinkable a year ago.”[/quote]
That is a direct quote from Trump himself. No editorial perspective, nothing.
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Bump.
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1 ReplyGive me liberty or give me death!
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By security, in politics that usually means about protecting those who rule us from the likes of you - the ordinary people. Ordinary people just assume they mean foreign enemies, especially if some 'terrorist' event is then used as justification for more surveillance powers But the enemies of the state, in the eyes of the state, are really the majority population - us. Therefore, greater surveillance of us is to their benefit, to maintain power over us and the status quo - that of a ruling minority elite and their self-interests
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Edited by Levitayte: 11/22/2015 3:28:09 AMCan one really answer this question truthfully? I mean, you can answer it with your own opinion, but that wouldn't really mean much would it?
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8 Repliesif any of you are planning on moving. canada is a lot like the u.s but no guns and less people and similar money.
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Safety creates liberty too.
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Neither one should compromise the other. There is a reason why you can own a gun but should not bring it to the -blam!-ing airport.
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4 RepliesBenjamin also said that in a time when bombs that could literally wipe cities off the map and people that blew themselves up for 72 virgins didn't exist
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all prase mr trump th 3rd comin of jesis aleluya amen <3 thx u god
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What won't this man say? So the Muslims need to be ID'd and tagged for close watch, but all the loony toons killing fellow citizens can be dealt with another way? Why are politicians treating human rights like a drawing board?
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If they want democrats to win so badly, why don't they just drop out and save the time and money?
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1 ReplyWeren't these the same arguments that led to the Patriot Act and the NSA's illegal wiretapping of [b]citizens[/b]?
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5 RepliesEdited by ShapelessHorr0r: 11/20/2015 12:10:14 AMNote: Britton, this isn't directed at you solely. The fact that people are still breaking this down to an either-or fallacy sickens me. The reality is that "freedom" is not a whole package. It is not a yes/no. [u][i][b]The fact that you are in a government means that you are inherently limited in freedoms.[/b][/i][/u] See: John Locke You can have both. Stop thinking you can't. Edit: Why are people blaming Trump/republicans? Lol. Bernie would keep the NSA. Hillary would be wary of the refugees. Both would maintain a sizable military.
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1 ReplyI just find it hilarious that most of the people from my hometown who support him are extremely uneducated and very close-minded. Most of them suggest that there's something wrong with being Muslim, which makes me chuckle to myself.
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1 ReplyTrumps plan will definitely lead to profiling of both middle eastern decent people as well as Hispanics. He already said recently that "a terrorist apparently tried to to get into Mexico. That's why we need to build a wall"~trump Not only will the refugees be sent to camps or "settlement shelters" But we all know it will be like WWII AGAIN And those that were even born in America will be whisked away for "safety" and thrown into these camps and fearmongering used to build a wall along Mexico, wasting tons of tax dollars or as trump says, make Mexico pay for it and will only worsen relations.
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Edited by Ultron: 11/20/2015 8:14:42 PMSolution, get rid of security all together and maximize liberty. That way people will have as much Liberty as possible, and we won't need security because everyone that can't secure themselves will be dead! I HAVE A DREAM! EVERY MAN WILL BE FREE TO START THEIR OWN WARS! MIGHT MAKES RIGHT! [spoiler]Armstrong for president 2020![/spoiler]
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3 RepliesI feel like they already do this. Trump just doesn't know about it, yet....
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My god America is going back in time. We can't just violate an American citizens rights just because their Muslim.
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Edited by Parazrael: 11/19/2015 5:55:10 PMDonald Trump wants us to be the very thing we revolted against at the birth of this nation. I guess the American Dream really is dead.
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Freedom > Safety
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FREEDOM... IS THE SOVEREIGN RIGHT OF EVERY AMERICAN
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Edited by Autolycus: 11/20/2015 3:49:31 PMMURICAN FREEDOM!!!!
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28 RepliesDonald Trump needs to be deported. If he becomes president, I might actually move to Canada.
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3 RepliesIf America is living in fear, terrorism has already won. We do not need to take away freedoms but show that America will Continue to strive in the wake of diversity and terror.
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So if Trump wins I'll have to carry some ID saying I'm Muslim? I guess my name being Mohamad isn't enough.
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It's funny how people think he is speaking in a sophisticated way making it so he gets more votes but he didn't say shit about what his plan for security was. Are you really going to vote for a souless old man with a corrupt mind and dangerous amounts of money? Are you going to gamble your liberty that you love gloating about to let this dumbass build a wall that you don't need? A good president needs honesty, charisma, intelligence, humbleness, selflesness, and a heart. All attributes that trump does not have in my eyes.