originally posted in:The Ashen Conflux
I take issue with your description of the worms as dragons (Ahamkara), which is a controversial claim at best. I know we disagree, but seems like you're trying to sum up what we know for sure, and then as questions, and I would argue that worms being Ahamakara is not something we can say we know ([url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/169921880/0/0]and I would argue that they're not[/url])
I'm very interested in the Awoken thing. Can you provide me some sources and reasoning behind your conclusion? I've been wondering about them.
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The ahamkara are believe to also be hosts to the worms. Look at all the ahamkara gear and the quotes speak just as the worms do. And in book of sorrows Oryx speaks of the Dragons and how he hates the idea of sharing his gods
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I never specifically said they're Ahamkara, but they're described as being extremely expansive with wings. Seems dragon-like to me. The Awoken were born from the Collapse. The Queen states that her mother was starlight, and her father was the dark.
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Edited by KAGEHOSHI-: 11/8/2015 1:53:32 AMNot all worms are winged, so far we only know of Yul having them. It might just be Yul, it might be other gods. Something big with wings doesn't automatically mean dragon. For all we know, the wings could have been insect-like (they were described as having curled wings, and some flies have a mutation that causes this) "Starlight" is not the same as directly implicating the Traveler. There are possible other sources of magic light than the Traveler. For example, all living things have a spark of light. It wouldn't make sense to me if it refers to the Traveler given that Earth was hit by Darkness, and the Traveler was there, and no Awoken was born on Earth from the mix. Discussing the Awoken here if you're interested https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/171885380/0/0