[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13688]THANK YOU Bungie for acknowledging our search.[/url]
[i]Yesterday, those Guardians who had successfully foraged for crucial weapon fragments began the chase for the widely-anticipated Sleeper Simulant. The revelation of this new Quest was described as “awesome” by some. Others of you, who skipped meals and lost sleep on the hunt for the elusive Heavy Fusion Rifle, were not as pleased.
The response to Sleeper Simulant was humbling because we did not predict the community reaction. When we try new things, players often teach us a lesson about how to do it better, and this one has us thinking hard about how Quests communicate their availability. Our challenge is balancing between the secrecy that makes these hunts exciting, and transparency that could spoil the fun for the hunters. As long as the community is giving us feedback, we’ll keep seeking the ideal balance.[/i]
I still argue that 'time-gated content' is not the same thing as 'secrecy'.
[spoiler]Yo Bungie, OMNISniper/echolog here. I've been doing my best on reddit (/r/searchforthesleeper) to solve the mystery of the Sleeper Simulant, and today we made a BIG step in reaching that goal. I believe we have uncovered and deciphered the full quest-line for the Sleeper, as well as ALL of the related items to the quest. The cool thing is... we are only missing ONE item (and we have a good idea of where to find it).
First, huge credit to /u/DRayX17 on reddit for [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3n2g2f/new_info_relic_objective_descriptions/]THIS POST[/url] which located all of the related items and objectives!
Below is what we believe to be the full quest-line to unlock the Sleeper Simulant, complete with links to items in the database and other data-mined information that all fits perfectly. Enjoy!
[b][u]PRE-QUEST[/u][/b] - This is the phase of collecting relics and 'restoring Banshee's memory' that has to happen in order to unlock the main quest.
[b]1.)[/b] Collect 4 DVALIN fusion rifles (Dark Age Relics) and turn them into Banshee-44. These are always found in the same order:
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027711-classified]DVALIN-RAS8711-FR002[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027710-classified]DVALIN-RAS93-FR001[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027709-classified]DVALIN-RAS30-FR004[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027708-classified]DVALIN-RAS432-FR003[/url],
[b]2.)[/b] Collect IKELOS Fusion Core (Golden Age Relic). [b]THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FIND RIGHT NOW![/b]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665156-classified]The IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] requires several events to repair it. We will need to dismantle heavy weapons and take it around to Warsat events on various planets in order to repair and activate it.
- Turn the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665157-classified]Completed IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] in to Banshee-44 to restore his memories and receive the following quest.
[b][u]ACTUAL SLEEPER SIMULANT QUEST[/u][/b] (name currently unknown)
[b]1.)[/b] After having his memory restored Banshee gives us the quest, the first step of which is 'The First Firewall' mission ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/FartSausage![/url]). He also gives us the [url=http://destinydb.com/items/2444987010]DVALIN Transponder[/url] (previously inside of the DVALIN relics) which will lead us to the source of the 'musical signal' mentioned by Banshee after turning the original relics in!
- The first step is to enter the mission and use the Transponder to find the source of the signal. We assume the source will be the 'Seraph Network Terminal' which was the result of cracking the various encoded messages on Rasputin's computer screens ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/Browsing_From_Work[/url]).
- Once we find the source, we will be asked to enter four passcodes into the Transponder. These codes are [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665152-classified]9[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665153-classified]8[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665154-classified]10[/url], and [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665155-classified]8[/url] digits respectively. The nodes are very similar to the Rasputin symbol, and possibly represent the doors in his complex. Each node can be selected as 'open' or 'closed' and acts similar to a Binary code (1's and 0's).
- After cracking the code, we will unlock the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3774437926-classified]'Relic' version of the Sleeper Simulant itself![/url]
[b]2.)[/b] Upon bringing the Relic found in the previous step to Banshee-44, he will use his gunsmith skills to power it using the IKELOS Fusion Core and give us the [b]Completed Sleeper Simulant[/b], and then we can go shoot stuff!
Yes, the quest is only two steps. And that is important, because we already found the actual quest in the database! [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/quests/761532050-classifiedt]THIS[/url] is the actual in-game quest for the Sleeper Simulant. The reward for this quest is listed as 'Bungie Hidden Reward (3012398149)', which interestingly enough is one ONE DIGIT higher than Telesto, the only other Exotic Fusion Rifle in the game. :)
You might still be asking, [b]"How do you know getting the Core will trigger the quest?"[/b]
Well... because of [url=https://i.imgur.com/EqpkZWz.png]THIS IMAGE.[/url] That is the last page of the database when searching for 'Classified' items. You can see these items for yourself [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/search?page=4&q=classified&filter=0]right here![/url] Those items are not actually 'items' that you can find in the game. They are HIDDEN items. They represent quest trackers, which when collected, cause something to happen within the game. Each of the four DVALIN relics has one of these attached to it to tell the game which relic to drop next (which is why they always drop in the same order). Once you collect all 4 of those and the 5th IKELOS relic, they tell the game to unlock the Sleeper Simulant quest!
So that just leaves one thing... [b][u]WHERE IS THE IKELOS FUSION CORE?[/b][/u]
Well, let's take a look at it! The first 'node' on the item says this:
- MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: IKELOS subroutine
- HERCULES_11(GA=ISHTAR.ARCHIVES)
This points to two possible locations.
The first line references the IKELOS subroutine, which is not seen anywhere else in the game or the grimoire (outside of the Sleeper Simulant itself). Ikelos, in Greek Mythology, is one of the Oneiroi, the Dreamers. He is the son of Nyx (The Night) and Erebus (The Darkness). He is also the brother (or maybe son?) of Hypnos (The Sleeper). Interesting, another name for Ikelos is Phobetor. Sound familiar? The first lead we have on where to find this item is PHOBOS, the moon of Mars. This could potentially be either the Fear's Embrace or The Coming War missions. I've run through them both a few times today with friends looking for secrets, and they seem to be full of them. There are several doors that never open during the Phobos missions (particularly the door in the Oryx boss fight room) and there are lots of scannable items as well. That being said, I have no idea why a Rasputin fusion core would be in a Cabal base on Phobos... but it's worth a shot!
The second line references the Ishtar Archives, as well as the 11th Labor of Hercules. More Greek Mythology! The 11th labor is Hercules' task to steal the Golden Apples of the Hesperides. The story goes that he asks Atlas to get the apples for him, and in the meantime he has to hold up the Earth. When Atlas comes back with the Apples, Hercules has to trick Atlas into holding the Earth up while he adjusts his shoulderpads, at which point he runs off with the apples himself. Hercules is a jerk! Anyway, this line also says the GA (Golden Apple, or perhaps Golden Age Relic?) is in the Ishtar Archives. Definitely a strong candidate for the Fusion Core's location.
So yeah, there it is! We just need to find this fusion core and the Sleeper Simulant could be ours. BUNGIE PLS, GIVE ISHTAR ARCHIVES/COMING WAR DAILY HEROICS.
WE DID IT REDDI- I mean... Bungie.net :)
[b]TL;DR[/b] Destiny uses a series of invisible quest-tracking items that tell the game what to do next. Each DVALIN relic has one of these attached, and each one tells the game to drop the next one (which is why they always drop in the same order and you can't get two at the same time). The IKALOS Fusion Core has one of these tracker items attached to it as well, which indicates that it is the 5th and final relic needed to kick off the much anticipated quest for the Sleeper Simulant!
Also keep this in mind... Bungie told the Basketball Court guys they were wasting their time after ONE DAY. They haven't told us that, which I think means THIS GUN IS AVAILABLE NOW. [b]EDIT: LOL SO MUCH FOR THAT IDEA.[/b][/spoiler]
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If its true , only core is Drednought core from Shield Brothers strike..
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1 ReplyBump for later please
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2 RepliesMay i have a reply please, good job guys!!!!
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I love the "we did it Reddi... I mean Bungie.net" Reddit is a much better community
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5 RepliesReply for later. One person
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Cool. Good job to all involved!
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I've found a couple bits of info that only theorize the missing spaces in the quest line. 1: in the mission "The Promethean Code" just before you enter the area called "the mine" there is a small dead end hallway with 2 doors in it. There is also an air vent with what looks like a playable area behind it. There is also another air vent near the end of the mission just before you walk down the long hall with all the doors. The vent is in the center of the staircase in the middle of the room I feel like in the Heroic version of the mission, you'll be able to enter through that first vent, acquire the "core" that you mention above, and come out of the other vent to resume the usual mission. 2. Also in "The Promethean Code" if you look in the room of the omnigul breach, you can see what appears to be two pillars of horizontal yellow lasers. I feel like this will be related to the "The First Firewall" mission also mentioned above. I hope this is somewhat helpful, though it is just speculation at the time. I guess we have to wait for The Promethean Code Heroic mission.
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Can anyone find out what the first 7 dailies were on week one of ttk? You know how bungie sold ghorn on the 3rd week and everyone ignored it but then everyone found out how good it was later? Maybe bungie put the daily we needed for SS on the first daily on week 1 of ttk as a troll just like they did with ghorn.
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The fact that you used Greek mythology actually backs this up a lot due to bungie using a lot of Greek myth references in the game thus far. Well done. Hopefully it'll be obtainable as a daily from one of the Phobos missions :)
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Bump me, gotta find that core
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Bump for later please
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Is there anyway of tracking to see how many of the fake guns you've got? I got a few to start with but haven't seen one in ages!
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12 RepliesWhen discovering the dark ages relics, are they shared between all 3 characters - as in one account; or is it necessary to have each individual character randomly acquire them? If the former, then I have already found all 4 relics between my warlock and hunter. Next...?
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10 RepliesIt would be pretty funny if Xur sold it this friday.
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1 ReplyBump pls
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1 ReplyGooseBumps please
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1 ReplyBump for later plz
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22 RepliesEdited by Peterthecroc: 10/7/2015 3:11:11 PMOne person bump for later, I'm in a meeting so I can't have my phone going off with notifications a bunch Edit: I hate you guys
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5 Repliessomeone pls bump me for l8r!![spoiler]pls[/spoiler]
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4 Replieshttps://instagram.com/p/60oPrCFXER/ Not Bait I Swear Look at the words on the photo!
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Whoa 003 is the final fusion rifle? I just that today on 2 of my characters Banshee said "you have a knack for finding these things..." But I don't remember the rest
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Inb4gunnotactuallyfinished