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Edited by Raider TCK: 10/2/2015 11:40:29 PM
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Listen to the podcast kotaku did with Luke Smith. It's episode 2 of kotaku split screen if you want to give it a listen. It's an interview with Luke Smith who was the design lead on TTK. The interviewers asked 'is sunbreaker overpowered in pvp' Luke's response was 'I believe that the sunbreaker is allowing players to preform above their skill level, and the damage resistance is just too much'. Bungie user research also confirmed that sunbreakers have the highest average KDR out of all the subclasses. Look, when people complained about thorn that it was overpowered, people who used thorn as a crutch defended it. Same with blink. Blink and thorn got nerfed. It's going to happen. I understand if you are less skilled at pvp and you are having more fun because you have a significant advantage over other players, but having an imbalanced multiplayer only hurts the game. Eventually everyone will switch to sunbreaker to do well. Trials and iron banner is going to be renamed hammer time. And that's not going to be a diverse and enjoyable multiplayer.
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  • If they nerf the super, there damn well better be non-super compensation! The super is the [i]only[/i] good aspect of subclass in PvP.

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  • At least there fixing the amount of damage resistance it has because if they fixed the hammers it would ruin the super but damage resistance no....just need to play safer

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  • Way to spin what Luke actually said into some nonsense that you felt like spreading... I've listened to that interview multiple times and there were three points he made when discussing Sunbreaker. 1. He personally felt like he, himself, is over performing as a Sunbreaker Titan. 2. He then looked through Bungie's tracked Crucible statistics and specifically said that the numbers are [b]not[/b] as spread out as everyone thinks. 3. That he personally feels like a tank when he activates Hammer of Sol. At no point did he ever say everyone is over performing or that the subclass needed to be tweaked.

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  • He also said he won two billion dollars worth of Ghorn. Link the video.

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  • [url=http://example.com]http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833link[/url] Fast forward to around the 45:00 minute mark and you can hear exactly what he says about Sunbreaker.

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  • Edited by Malicious203FLK: 10/3/2015 1:12:21 AM
    http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833 This one works. Fast forward to around 45:00 minutes in.

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  • Edited by Malicious203FLK: 10/3/2015 1:09:08 AM
    [url=http://example.com]http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833[/url] Try that? Still not working... I wonder what I'm doing wrong? If you copy and paste that link it'll work in a browser. I don't know why it won't work here. :\

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  • It says example domain???

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  • I just posted one that works but here it is again. http://kotaku.com/we-talk-to-the-director-of-destiny-the-taken-king-1733054833 Fast forward to around 45:00 minutes.

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  • Let me just ask you something here. If you nerf the armor the sunbreaker gets (Which btw all 3 titan classes the same armor) then what separates a titan from hunter? Titans should absolutely be able to tank stuff better than every other class and if you remove that then you are weakening what a titan is all about.

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  • Armour as a class no armour during super would be

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  • The easiest way to solve this problem would be to remove damage reduction from every single classes super. If people are going to complain about titans being tough to kill then remove all damage reduction. That simple. You know what happens then. Titans will still take extra damage to kill over the other classes and then the problem continues but what will you nerf then? Hmmmm?

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  • Then only hunters should be able to do activities without a fireteam since we're the only lone wolfs. Titans could sit behind the walls. That's what the characters are all about...

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  • Because Titans already have high armour. Giving them 66% damage reduction on top of that creates issues especially when they kill you so easily. I mean golden gun can kill you easily, but you get no damage reduction and 3-4 shots. Titan you can throw 7 hammers and you can tank damage. It's broken.

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  • I don't know where you pulled 66% from but it certainly isn't sunbreaker

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  • Well it's higher then all the other supers. I believe sunsingers get 50% with the extra Armor perk but still Sunbreakers have higher...

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  • Not the armor stat. The damage resistance in super.

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  • [quote]Let me just ask you something here. If you nerf the armor the sunbreaker gets (Which btw all 3 titan classes the same armor) then what separates a titan from hunter? Titans should absolutely be able to tank stuff better than every other class and if you remove that then you are weakening what a titan is all about.[/quote] The Bungie design team seems to disagree with you. Maybe write them an email?

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  • Edited by handheldbrandon: 10/2/2015 11:19:12 PM
    These are the same guys that buffed thorn into retarded status and then left it that way for a long ass time while it dominated every pvp mode in existence and did nothing about it.. Excuse me for having no faith in THAT team. Btw Defender takes 3 golden gun shots. 2 for the shield and 1 for the defender. Striker takes 2 shots when he is using his super. Why can't sunbreaker take 2 shots? Also go look at Mongerlshadows post he did the testing himself and provided video proof that it CAN be killed in 1 shot unless you are stacking armor to the max.

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  • He does take two shoots

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  • [quote]These are the same guys that buffed thorn into retarded status and then left it that way for a long ass time while it dominated every pvp mode in existence and did nothing about it.. Excuse me for having no faith in THAT team. Btw Defender takes 3 golden gun shots. 2 for the shield and 1 for the defender. Striker takes 2 shots when he is using his super. Why can't sunbreaker take 2 shots? Also go look at Mongerlshadows post he did the testing himself and provided video proof that it CAN be killed in 1 shot unless you are stacking armor to the max.[/quote] Very true. Maybe this is all a smoke and mirrors tactic to distract us from their laggy terrible server problem ?

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  • The difference is a defender won't chase you round the map vaporising anything and everyone that gets in its way, tanking rockets, nightstalker tethers and golden gun shots.

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  • Heheh, that's an awesome way of putting it.

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  • Never hear anyone bitching about the free kill that is a ward of dawn. Never heard any hunters calling for it to be buffed

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