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They didn't call the bomb disposal team fam, nor did it look like a bomb, nor was there any reason to interrogate a 14 year old for hours on end. It's a total farce and to defend it only proves how many freedoms the 'land of the free' is willing to surrender without any just reason
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  • They only arrested him because he was a Muslim. If it was a Christian with the clock then nothing would have happened.

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  • [quote]Then there was the bizarre behavior of Ahmed himself when he brought his “invention” to school. After he showed it to his engineering teacher…the teacher said it resembled a bomb, and asked him not to show it to any other teachers. But Ahmed then brought it into his English class, plugged it in, set an alarm to go off, and did not mention to the teacher who felt “threatened” by it that he already showed it to the engineering teacher, and to ask him about it…which could have easily resolved the security concerns. Police described Ahmed as being “passive aggressive” in his answers to their questions, and didn’t have a “reasonable answer” as to what he was doing with the case. Was his behavior consistent with wanting to provoke a response by Irving authorities?[/quote] Sounds to me like he was provoking them

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  • It doesn't actually look like a bomb to anyone who has ever seen a bomb or anything like it. Reading that it sounds like he was simply frustrated that his efforts were sidelined by a ridiculous paranoia, and that he wanted to showcase his creation. If you think this 14 year old was [i]trying[/i] to provoke them (how? why?) it seems you've already come to forgone conclusions

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  • It looks exactly like a bomb to me and many other people. He got arrested for it being a 'hoax' bomb, which is why there was no bomb squad. He even claimed that he moved a few things around so that it wouldn't look suspicious. Why would he think it is suspicious? Also, he didn't even invent anything like he claims. He literally gutted a clock and stuck it in a case. Why would he do that?

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  • So you [i]do[/i] think he was guilty of foul-play, rather than just messing around with technology and rewiring a clock? And that he would show this to his teacher even though he intended to create a bomb-scare? Your story doesn't add up, if this 14 year old kid genuinely wanted to cause a ruckus he wouldn't have acted as he did.

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  • Regardless of whether or not he had an end goal, it was just a shady situation. What if it was a bomb, what then? He went through like 5 classes, including his engineering class where his teacher knew it wasn't a bomb, until he finally made it to English class. He kept in his backpack until it finally started beeping, i believe it was beeping because of the alarm, and the English teacher told him to bring it up. She looks in the bag and there's a case making beeping noises. What would my first thought be? [spoiler]it's a bomb[/spoiler]

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  • My first thought would be: Evacuate the building and call the bomb squad. Neither happened.

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  • But what would your logical next step be, if you REALLY believed it was a bomb? You would call a bomb squad, you would evacuate the school. Neither of these things happened, and instead a child was detained and interrogated on false pretences, this being a clear injustice. The fact a teacher in the school was aware of the true nature of the clock only shows how incompetent the school was, as they couldn't even communicate among themselves before calling in the police on an innocent kid. Even if you take the position that there was a right to be worried, it's impossible to justify how the school decided to resolve the issue

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  • Zero tolerance policy. What if it was a fake gun he 'invented.'

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  • Zero tolerance of what?

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  • [quote]It was about a year after Columbine. My then 11 year old son was an avid player of paintball, involved in league play, etc. He had purchased a new paintball marker and was excitedly waiting for its delivery. In class one day in NJ, he was doodling in his notebook, sketches of the new marker. A teacher saw it, reported it, and during the next period my son, a straight A student, was removed from class, marched to the principal's office and questioned. Then he was given a three day suspension. Zero tolerance after columbine. [/quote]

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  • That's a pretty stupid move to support, suspending people for 3 days just for drawing a paintball gun does nothing to help combat school shootings whatsoever.

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  • >doesn't look like a bomb >looks exactly like an ied But I guess every single teacher in the world is taught the difference between clocks that look like bombs and actual bombs

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  • Aside from the wires they aren't actually that similar (PRO-TIP: THE ONE ON THE LEFT HAS NO EXPLOSIVE), and regardless the teachers clearly didn't take it seriously enough to evacuate the school or call a bomb squad so y'know.

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  • >no explosive >expecting a random person to know that The kid is obviously not a terrorist or anything but you surely must understand how it could cause concern

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  • Well if anything with wires is a bomb now they better cancel circuitry because that lesson has a load of boxes filled with wires. Point is they detained and interrogated this kid based on the uneducated assumption he was carrying some kind of bomb (a strange assumption to jump to, but considering the circumstances and locale it isn't unfounded to consider some racial/religious motivations behind the scenes) and then tried to paint this as just - the fact they didn't evacuate the school or call a bomb squad suggests they were at least partially aware there was no threat - or they are totally incompetent.

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  • >it doesn't look like a bomb dude Can you stop this retarded meme. I don't care about muh racial injustice, or the school is incompetent, or any of that crap. Look, most normal people don't spend their free time looking up bombs and bomb components.

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  • You realize image C on that picture also isn't a bomb? I mean come on dude if you're trying to prove a point do it right. A and D both have clear explosives in them, too. [spoiler]also nice meme arrows[/spoiler]

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  • I love how you're blowing it up. Did you see it? It looked like a -blam!-ing case bomb. Also they didn't interrogate him for "hours on end" you sophist, they gave him the opportunity to explain himself and he didn't do they arrested him while they investigated the potential bomb. Wake up.

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  • It looks nothing like a bomb to anyone who has actually seen one. Pro-tip, bombs usually include explosives. It's ludicrous why people are taking the side against the victim, who is an innocent child.

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  • No ones saying he shouldn't have been apologized to because yes, they were wrong. But people like you turning this into a racism issue and saying they had no reason to be cautious of it are worse. He never explained himself to the cops, what did you want them to do? It's not like it wasn't unjustified. To the untrained eye, that thing looked like a god damn bomb.

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  • What you do is this: establish that the thing is/is not a bomb [i]first[/i], then detain and integrate the perpetrator. To do that backwards is tantamount to a police state, where they can (and will) detain even children without any factual basis for their actions. I hadn't actually brought race into this, but if you wanna talk about that I'm game.

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  • I didn't say you specifically mentioned race but lots of people are calling it racist Also they tried that, but Ahmed wasn't compliant. Ergo, they had to arrest him to figure out whether or not it was a bomb. It looks exactly like a -blam!-ing IED.

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  • Or, you know, call bomb specialists down. That's what they do when people genuinely feel threatened, while also evacuating the area. The only things it has in common with an IED are the wires and the fact it's in a case, nothing more (it's missing a key component - an explosive).

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