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Sounds like as someone who knew what they were doing, you should have taken the whole one minute it takes to explain the fight... Left. Right. Oracles. Pillars. Bubble. It doesn't matter if it's mm or lfg, in-game or out. If people who know can't lead, how will those who don't know learn?
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  • Edited by danielseoul: 8/15/2015 3:34:19 AM
    I was speaking, telling them what to do. We all had mics but they continued to fuc-k up. They wouldn't listen or at the very least refused to. And this wouldn't be the first time I had a disastrous VoG experience between my two accounts. And more importantly you didn't answer my question; how many VoG raids have you completed?

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  • Edited by Lost Sols: 8/15/2015 3:54:09 AM
    One Hard Mode Atheon, with randoms. We grouped for it after being randomly matchmade together in PvP. Three of us hadn't run it. Took about 6 attempts to beat Atheon. Why's it matter how many times? Because you can have bad groups? Because you're just making the point to have hosted lobbies even stronger. They won't listen? Kick them and re-queue for another. I've beat HM Atheon and HM Crota easily with randoms met in-game and I've been in a Destinylfg group that struggled on easier-mode Crota. Anyway you group up, it's up to the ones who can lead to lead. If a group has no leaders, it's probably doomed.

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  • Edited by danielseoul: 8/15/2015 8:13:23 AM
    Trust me when I say that I yelled into my mic by saying "Don't jump when Atheon opens the time stream!" and yet people continued to jump. Likewise I said "Stay out of Atheon's line of sight!" in regards to him before he opens the time stream and again my group stayed out in the open. It still continues to boggle my mind how many people do not know how to use the relic! Grenade button hold to cleanse. R2/RT to bash and so on. If what you're saying is true in relation to your personal raids then I must say it's very out of character for what many of the other raiders, myself included have experienced with raids. Bear in mind this was just my most recent raid attempt. When done with trusted people I've friended I mean yeah, we get it done every time but with random people you meet by chance it has never gotten done in my cases. And I'm talking about every raid I've attempted with people that weren't known to me, it was just a disaster which is exactly what a match made raid system would bring. I seldom get randoms entering team chat during match made strikes. Do you truly think if a raid was brought together by nobody who knew each other prior would result in the noobs both having mics set up and entering a chat? I doubt it which would also lead to frustration and eventual rage quits. Even now I find it close to impossible to believe your raid runs with random players have gone so silky smooth whereas mine and perhaps thousands or tens of thousands have not. It could be blind luck like the broken rng system. End of story though the raids require complete coordination and mic use on everyone's part. Your request to have any yahoo jump in there to be paired with the few elite, with all due respect, is completely outrageous. Bungie will never implement it since they themselves designed the raids to begin with and even if they did, the wheat would stay far as fuc-k away from it while the chaff will continue to be lost to the dark edges of time. Over and over and over.

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