Hopscotch Pilgrim is best, without question, even before it frees up an exotic slot for you.
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No way, The Messenger can get max stability without sacrificing anything and has A grade perks. The messenger also has more range than the Hopscotch Pilgrim. Hopscotch pilgrim is just a poor mans Messenger
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Rofl messenger has 50 less aim assist, third eye is not grade a, and messenger has less ammo. I've compared stats and messenger is blown out of the water by the hopscotch
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But no one cares about mag size? The weapon fires slow enough as it is.... Third eye is actually a really handy perk too so I'm not really sure what you are on about. Hopscotch is actually a poor mans messenger.
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Lol a lot of people care about mag size, hopscotch can get much higher stability of it wanted
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We'll the people that care about mag size are a bit slow in the head, the weapon fires slow enough as it is that is why it doesn't have a large magazine... As for getting mad stability on the hopscotch it's possible but you have a penalty to range... The messenger doesn't have any penalty it's great in every field, it can have a large magazine,max stability or max reload... Take your pick lol
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Hopscotch has much much better statistics in the secondary perks. If you add them up, hopscotch is much better.
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Can you prove this?? Curious as to how much this weapon is better then messenger ?
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Just look it up in the planet destiny database
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Hopscotch is better...messenger does not have max stability ...but with my hopscotch build I have feeding freenzy,speed reload,and reactive reload..then I main a Hunter with pulse speed reload armor and chain of woe and hunters trance...if you are running in high traffic area you can lay down some folks pretty quick with 51 head and 34 body shots
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I understand that but if you want max stability with hopscotch (which I don't know why unless you are handicapped) you get a massive reduction to range.. Messenger can have stability without a penalty to it awesome range!
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You get braced frame and bullets go down instead of range
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Even if that was the case, the messenger still has better range than the hopscotch.
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Never once have I had a problem with range on hopscotch ...but I can out damage the messenger with better accuracy and i run Hunter with knuckle head radar so yea hopscotch is better in pvp
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If you roll smallbore on the HP you will have the same range, stability and mag size as a messenger (if you think that's better than max stability). Plus you can pick the other two perks to suit your play style. Reactive reload and hidden hand are very sweet.
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I run with feeding freenzy,speed reload,reactive reload...then I run knuckle head radar,pulse speed reloading armor,pulse ammo armor,chain of woes,hunters trance....this set up makes the hopscotch even better
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That's a beast! I have 2: one with feeding frenzy/braced frame/reactive reload and one with feeding frenzy/brackets frame/hidden hand. I like the hidden hand for TOO. The HP with reactive reload was the first gun to get me >30 kills in a game. It was asylum and I was on B and they just kept rushing and I was mowing them down. I actually ran out of primary ammo. It was so much fun!
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Hell yea