I'm very well suited for this argument.
Hi. I'm Schruef. My sister is one year younger than me and she has moderate Down's syndrome. She's changed my life in more ways than you know for good and bad but I still love her to death. Would my life be better or worse if she wasn't alive or wasn't disabled? I don't know. Because my life is about 75% her right now. Taking care of her and making sure she doesn't break everything.
She ate a pipe cleaner when she was younger. The surgery cost her half of her gut. She can't digest skinned food (corn, beans) so she gets diarrhea when she eats them. The surgery was expensive.
She fell out of a two story window and fractured some bones. More surgery...
She breaks things, and has to eat 1.6x a much as us because she can't digest as efficiently.
We didn't know she was disabled until she was born. If I was my mom would I have aborted if I knew? I do not know.
Here's my point, I want to go to bed so I'll keep it generally short; Crunchy, I don't know if you do, you didn't say anything if you do, but 90% of you people don't know what it means to have a family member who is disabled. You don't. They will take your life, smash it to bits and rebuild it again just to smash it. There are lots of types of disabilities. If your child was basically brain dead? I would abort. If they had other severe disabilities? I would also abort. It's not a life worth living, and I'm dreading the day when I have to go to my sisters coffin on her 35th birthday (average lifespan for someone with Down's) because I wouldn't be able to go. I'd break down over how she's changed me for good and bad.
Some families can't afford them, and the homes they go to can be abusive. You must live with them your entire life, or send them to a home.
If the disability was mild? I would keep the child.
I'm for abortion if the circumstances require it for a better future.
But please, don't say it's selfish. Because you don't know what selfish is, until you live like me and my sister do together.
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Love the way you said that I completely agree with you. If they can't take care off them they will have a worse life
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I do have an autistic family member but I'm not his caretaker. I understand that it is difficult and that it is exhausting. But denying someone life just to take make your life easier is kinda selfish. You're only doing it for yourself and in no way are you helping the child. I just don't think it's reasonable. These people are going to grow up to be some of the happiest people on the planet but you denied them life because you didn't want to go through the trouble of raising them. I understand that some people with disabilities can just be tiring and exhausting on a family but what can I say... Maybe I don't have as much as a say sense I don't care for anyone with special needs. But ending the life of someone just because they aren't perfect doesn't make sense. People with special needs have a high capacity for happiness. Why should I sent them that just because it'll be a burden on me? I don't know if you watched the video but you really should.
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I did watch the video. And I'm sorry to break this to you, but here's a few points to make. 1: This place is 1/1000000 2: These places cost $$$ 3: Most places are not like this 4: All these people have Down's. But there are lots of other disabilities. Some people [b]literally[/b] can't think. Basically brain dead. Some can't move. Some are always in pain. Screaming... Wanting a way out. These are lives not worth living. When all you live for is to stare... And stare... Not knowing what beauty the world holds and being fed by your care takers, to die, clueless. My litter sister can enjoy life, but not some people. Not all of the disabled are happy or can be.
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Edited by SSDxCrunchyWolf: 7/11/2015 3:58:16 AM[quote]1: This place is 1/1000000 2: These places cost $$$ 3: Most places are not like this 4: All these people have Down's. But there are lots of other disabilities.[/quote] I'm doubting you even watched or paid attention to this video. The video wasn't about the facility for people with special needs. So I have no idea what you're going on about. The video is about rather or not people with special needs should be aborted. Also I know that lots of people in the video font have down syndrome. But then again my argument was about special needs people not specifically people with down syndrome. [quote]Some people [b]literally[/b] can't think. Basically brain dead. Some can't move. Some are always in pain. Screaming... Wanting a way out. These are lives not worth living. When all you live for is to stare... And stare... Not knowing what beauty the world holds and being fed by your care takers, to die, clueless.[/quote] This is a rare minority. People aren't typically born that way. [quote]Not all of the disabled are happy or can be.[/quote] No but most are. The video said [b]90%[/b]
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Man I'm so good at giving timely responses. But in your argument, you state that disabled [b]do[/b] live happily but brush off a minority? Those people still exist.
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I don't even remember what that argument was about and I'm not rereading the whole conversation.
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Tbh I just read one section of your argument. Shall we move on?
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