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Absolutely not. People don't realize that if vaccines are truly necessary at some point, natural selection will kill off whoever doesn't vaccinate.
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  • What about those individuals in which vaccines are contraindicated?

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  • They should take extra precautions. Vaccines aren't necessary to survive in our very sanitary society, though.

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  • Edited by Vicex: 7/2/2015 1:04:18 AM
    [quote]Vaccines aren't necessary to survive in our very sanitary society, though.[/quote] They absolutely are- at least without serious health repercussions. In addition, our society is not as sanitary as you would like to believe.

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  • My philosophy is to get as little shots as possible only for the diseases that are usually lethal.

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  • So... what about things like Polio, or other diseases that, while they may not kill you, can cripple you or let you spread the disease to populations that it can kill (children, elderly, those with compromised immune systems, etc.)?

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  • If an outbreak occurs, then definitely vaccinate for them. The odds of you getting it is ridiculously low, though.

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  • [quote]If an outbreak occurs, then definitely vaccinate for them.[/quote] Vaccination after an outbreak kinda defeats the purpose of vaccination to begin with. [quote]The odds of you getting it is ridiculously low, though.[/quote] Not really...

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  • Did a bit of Googling, last outbreak of polio in the US affected 107 people. 318.9 million people live in the US. 107/318,900,000 I'll take the risk.

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  • That's because >287,010,000 are vaccinated. Prior to mass vaccination there used to be ~35,000 per annum- A 327% decrease in reported cases.

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  • I'm not saying that vaccination as a whole is unnecessary. Just that people shouldn't fret when they meet someone who has been unvaccinated.

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  • I'm still questioning that view. For example, I was vaccinated against Varicella as a child and never was infected. That vaccination lasts about 20 years (Which means I'm a bit over due for another- but ironically enough am struggling to actually find someone to give it to me). If I encounter an unvaccinated child who has the virus, I can get that virus and have serious health problems due largely to my age.

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  • I'm questioning the view of vaccinating for everything. Why do flu shots even exist? You're just getting a needless shot with carcinogens including mercury that makes you sick after you get it and can prevent a disease that is easily overcome by someone in good health. I wouldn't worry about most of the diseases that people get vaccinated for.

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  • Edited by Vicex: 7/2/2015 4:26:33 AM
    [quote]Why do flu shots even exist? You're just getting a needless shot with carcinogens including mercury that makes you sick after you get it and can prevent a disease that is easily overcome by someone in good health.[/quote] Flu shots are mainly recommended for those individuals in which the flu can cause serious harm and those who have frequent contact with individuals within these populations. Some you do not need to worry too much about... but most things that people get vaccinated for are for good reason. [quote]I'm questioning the view of vaccinating for everything.[/quote] We don't vaccinate for everything- even if vaccinations are available. It's typically only recommended/mandated if the source of the disease is common/severe or if you are traveling to places or interacting with populations were exposure is likely. Rabies vaccinations and TB vaccinations are great examples.

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  • Isn't it like 36 shots for infants initially? How many of those are necessary? Forgive my skepticism of everything. I'll do more research into the subject later.

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  • Edited by Vicex: 7/2/2015 4:34:16 AM
    Here is a recommended schedule from the CDC. In my opinion, (and the expert opinions of the CDC, researchers, and practitioners) these are all necessary.

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  • Why chicken pox and measles?

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  • Chicken Pox can reoccur later in life, you might know this as "shingles" which can cause painful rashes and in more sever cases lead to nerve damage...also resulting in pain that can last years.. As for Measles, it's a very contagious virus that serenely affects infants and young children.

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  • You seem to have reduced my skepticism towards vaccines so thanks. I'll still do more research, though.

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  • Not a problem, and I encourage you to do so using valid sources. PubMed is a great tool to start with.

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  • Edited by illqo : 7/2/2015 4:58:10 AM
    I had chicken pox because there was no vaccine when I was a child, while I will be mostly immune to the disease for the rest of my life there is a high chance that I can now contract shingles because I had chicken pox. Those with the vaccine are not at risk. Why the -blam!- not get a chicken pox vaccine, shingles are a pretty terrible disease that stand a chance of killing your ass.

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  • Was never aware of that.

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