Cheap is lag switching or running modded controllers/ keyboard & mouse. Using in game content the way it was designed is not cheap. Messenger,tlw,nlb,red death,bad juju,vex, hawkmoon and others can go up against thorn no problem. If someone is using blink, run&slide as soon as they disappear and they will blink past you. Now either run or turn and blast 'em. Losing team doesn't get shit so show up prepared to win. Jump on twitch or YouTube and watch strategy of successful players.[spoiler]crying on the forums is not gonna make gameplay more fun[/spoiler]
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Are you seriouse? Hawkmoon is 2 headshots and 1 body shot to kill. Thorn is 3 body shots. Red death needs to hit ALL shots in the head to kill in 2 bursts. Thorn needs 2 hs and it has higher ROF than hawkmoon. Range is the same as hawkmoon as well. TLW is good weapon, its not broken in my opinion just bugged. Range and extra dmg but thats it. Messenger will win with thorn only on distance. And blink is unstoppable in 6v6 where everything is a mess. Its not as OP on trials because you constantly watch your opponents but on normal crucible its impossible to know everything around you all the time. Theres a diffrence between 'those guns can if your good' and this gun 'will'. WHen I played few games with thorn on normal crucible it was hard to go below 1.5 kd with it. 1st game even without perfect balance with thorn was like 3.2 for me. If 2 skilled guy use 2 weapons whos gone win? The guy with thorn who can get 2 headshots meanhwile the guy with hawkmoon has lower ROF and needs 2hs + bodyshot.Lets add the fact you can always just go 3 bodyshots and it will kill as well. Not to mention the mark of devour which makes you regen health slower. THorn is a crutch, it has nothing to do with skill and its cheap.