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Edited by Mudkip Knight: 6/25/2015 12:38:44 AM
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If you care about Destiny you have to read this article [Go read the update]

Sorry for the click-baity title but this is pretty serious. If you want to talk depreciation this isn't what I'm talking about at all. [url=http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-06-22-destiny-the-taken-king-director-defends-40-expansion-price-tag][/url] Edit: I also encourage you to sign this petition as it intersects well with this thread. Who knows maybe it will help. [url=https://www.change.org/p/bungie-activision-give-year-1-players-the-same-perks][/url] Edit 2: I'm hearing threads are being deleted. If you wanna be really cool copy this post in a word document and feel free to paste it as a new thread if it disappears. Don't spam existing threads because that's annoying. Edit 3: Deej has commented that year one players will get "something better" than the collector's edition items and to look forward to the weekly update. Should be interesting to see how this goes down. (Dawn of the Second Day) [b]update[/b] [url=http://i.imgur.com/HWfxrE6.jpg][/url] 7/11 employee flyer. I encourage you to read this too. "Destiny cons-- are used to paying a premium for downloadable content similar to this quest" In this article, eurogamer interviewed Luke Smith about the worries players have expressed about the taken king both in price points ($40 =/=£40) and in collector's edition exclusives (three armor shaders, exclusives emotes, and continuous XP granting exotic class items) that are only available for players willing to shell out $80, most of which is for content they likely already own. His answers to these questions were illuminating to say the least and rather than give cliffs notes I want you to read it yourself now. Think about what he says. I hope it leaves the same feeling in your gut that it left in mine. When destiny first launched there were three editions: the vanilla game the digital guardian edition and the ghost edition. The vanilla game was the vanilla game, simple enough. The ghost edition was for the high rollers who wanted something nice: their very own red dinklebot and an in game version of it. Cool. For those who wanted all of the in game content but didn't really want to drop more money on physical items there's the digital guardian edition which came with all of the in game items the ghost edition had. Now we have a new release but with a radically different setup. The $40 expansion for owners of both expansions is analogous to the vanilla destiny package from above. Completely fine. The $60 legendary edition is fine. New players should have a bundle for them, this kind of thing happens all the time and while I'm kinda suprised at how cheap it costs, they still have to be competitive against the heavy hitters shipping this season. The collector's editions are where we run into trouble. The physical rewards are analogous to the ghost edition: you either want the strange coin or you don't (well gamestop is out of physical copies so I guess this is no longer a choice). That's fine. The word collector has a certain long term investment attached to the name semantically so you would think it was made with current players in mind. But it comes with the legendary edition which is intended for new players... Alright that's fine I have my ghost I don't really mind the physical items so let's see the equivalent of the digital guardian edition because those shaders look nice, the emotes will liven up the game and the XP class items will lessen the grind and I wouldn't mind spending the halfway point between the $40 and the $80 editions. Except the digital edition of the collector's edition also costs exactly the same as the physical edition: $80 (for less content as the digital version obviously doesnt include the physical items). The digital guardian editon came as a halfway point between the the two editions and included the full destiny experience in game. That was important. Now current players are given two options: go all in on the $80 version, buy what you already own for the exclusive in game items, or buy the $40 version and watch as new players and current players who have more money than brains bypass the grind with their new XP capes for the rest of the game. Not allowing current players the option to buy the taken king by itself with the complete in game content is price gouging. It's also making them artifically inflate their dlc sales as players are buying multiple copies of the dlc that they will never use because guess what? They already own it. And then when an interviewer brings up these frustrations, this is the response we're given. If you care at all you have to be vocal about this. If this succeeds without contest it will be how companies sell content going forward. I'm not calling for a boycott but don't throw your money at them blindly. If you are content with the status quo ask yourself why you enjoy paying more for content you already own? I refuse to pay for what I already have and you should too.

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  • Ummmm.... Necro-boop. 🤨7

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      [quote]"I refuse to pay for what I already have and you should too."[/quote] That's your right, and we respect your freedom to make decisions about what you find valuable. The Collector's Edition is mostly sold out, so the people who found that stuff valuable jumped at the chance. You'll likely see it sold on ebay for much more than what we're asking. But that's not the point. Right? The real conversation here is: What are we doing to honor you, the players who have been bound to Destiny in this first year of action and adventure? I'm glad you asked. I'm going to answer in the Bungie Weekly Update. Please stay tuned.

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      • It says: For the ultimate destiny fan... What -blam!-ing destiny fan does not own the game at this point?

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      • Has anyone noticed that in the UK [i]we[/i] have to pay [i]£40[/i] and [i]in America[/i] they have to pay [i]$40[/i]. This converts that the people in the UK have to pay around [b][i]$60[/i][/b]. Unfair?!

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        • The people bitching about "whiners' and saying "Don't buy it" are probably the ones who already have it and don't want to see their money go to waste now that Bungie's going to do something.

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          • Prepare yourself for the inevitable post removal. They are cleansing the whole forum of this subject. After all, nothing says "we value your feedback" like mass censorship.

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            • Edited by galymanda: 6/24/2015 2:33:01 PM
              This is what happen when the community get piss and the fan kiss ass boys get overthrown by the people who really Care about the game because if you truly like something yoh ahould be able to criticize and point out its errors

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            • See I used to think this but companies do this literally ALL-THE-TIME! Example Ford, Chevy, Dodge all do this with their performance cars almost every two years or so. You want the new faster mustang? You still have to buy another mustang and then pay more money for the extra features that come with it. Ultimately the choice to get it is up to you and how badly you want the new emotes or whatever. P.s and signing a petition to force a video game maker to provide you with an armor shader, sparrow, xp bonus, whatever is the most brattiest thing I've ever heard of.

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              • http://imgur.com/1fFXQvQ As the creator of the petition (image provided as proof), I'm glad to hear that something is being done about us Veteran players. At the same time, however, I have to ask - why didn't Bungie come out with this sooner? Why wait til now, after all of the masses have spoken, to finally speak up about vets "Getting something better"? On top of that, why do we have to wait til the Weekly Update? This basically gives you guys 3 days to throw something random together in an attempt to appease us, when we should've been in your thoughts from the very start.

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                • I refuse to pay for what I already have and you should too.

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                • I still believe the best exclusive would be a ship that is just a low quality gif of a dorito that sprays mountain dew from the back as it flies. Would make load times significantly more interesting.

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                  • What do u do if u have had destiny since the start and want the exp class items and the book and not both the expansions I already have

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                    • Why do I have to do a google search for this topic now? It almost seems like they have taken this topic off the forums trending list. Hmmm Conspiracy or actual truth?

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                      • So many will realize once TTK hits the mistake they made. Most will make themself believe its a great expansion but so many people including myself have been so turned off by the decisions made about this expansion. Many of us barely play at all. They -blam!-ed up on the bundles and yet to fix the debacle. Bungie missed the whole point on what people wanted which was the physical stuff in the CE as well as the other items without paying for 3 games we have already. They are trying to sell the digital for $20 which is far to much for those items. With them doing this it showed me they lack to comprehend what the customer wanted. But greed blinds most companies!

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                      • Edited by Doujinshi Anime: 7/5/2015 10:51:56 AM
                        [b]G J A L L A H O R N[/b] The only thing Bungie/Activision need to do is simply just add [b]Private Crucible[/b] and it will make this game 3x more exciting.

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                        • What about all the people who purchased only house of wolves and decided not to get the dark below? Are they now forced to get the dark below? This doesn't seem right

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                          • I now have to buy redbull to get a mission that should come with the Taken King dlc. Now that's redbullshit! If the mission is anything like the others I won't be missing out on much. Oh well.

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                          • Whatever happened to the philosophy of "the customer is always right?" Seems to me that the gaming industry prefers to bait their customers more than giving them what they actually want or need and it will only keep getting worse at this point.

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                            • Bump for Deej editing what he said

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                            • Edited by Thanatos: 6/23/2015 9:15:41 PM
                              This post requires a [url=http://www.destinythegame.com/taken-king/wheretobuy]Bungie "The Taken King" Premium Membership[/url] to view.

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                              • It was anounced today that destiny 2 will cost 100$ destiny says they are comfortable with the content they provide

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                              • Bump

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                              • Bump and bump every thread similar to this one.

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                                • I don't like the whole idea of new players getting everything for $60 when altogether were paying a lot more and honestly if you don't have destiny already I don't think a bunch of people are going to try and play a year later so the whole idea of collectors edition is really just for us veterans to spend more money which I refuse to do

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                                  • If this "something better" includes an emote and xp boosting class item its all cool. If there is more than that is even better.

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                                    • Edited by Mudkip Knight: 6/25/2015 4:38:50 AM
                                      Another bump to read the update. Deej for saying there will be no microtransactions in destiny, Red Bull for xp boosts seems to be a microtransaction. I'm an American but even still why are Europe/Australia still getting shafted by prices?

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