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Edited by Lit Dandelion: 6/10/2015 12:44:49 AM
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Five weapons that can help against thorn in crucible

After seeing so many people complain about thorn being too op and needing a nerf(even though it doesn't need one)I've decided to compile a list of weapons that could outclass thorn in a PvP battle.These are personal experience and weapon stat based. These are in no particular order 1.Red Death This exotic pulse rifle has great range,impact and rate of fire.It can kill guardians in [b]two[/b] bursts,which would easily outclass thorn.It will heal you after kills,so it negates the DoT.Easily one of the best PvP weapons in the game 2.MIDA Multi Tool Underestimated by most of Destiny's community,this beast can allow you to strafe easily and land crits.It can fire quicker than most other scout rifles,and with it doing about 55 crit dmg per hit,it can take down someone's health pretty quickly.If you have the aim,this thing will wreck in the right hands. 3.Spare Change.25 Carbon copy of red death.Except frees up an exotic slot.Kills in two bursts,and has great range and stability for a pulse rifle 4.Vex Mythoclast While at medium to long range this gun cannot perform well,at close it's an absolute beast.Its high impact of a fusion rifle and it's fire rate proves it to hit hard.Since most of Destiny's maps are close range(example:Cauldron,Pantheon,Anomaly) it tends to have an easy time on most maps.Run with it and you will most likely win all of your 1v1s in crucible 5.Almost all Osiris exclusive primaries These weapons are awarded to people who go undefeated in trials,and they're definitely worth it.While also being stellar PvE weapons,they have proved themselves in PvP.The jewel of Osiris has better stats than thorn(other than rate of fire)and can defeat it at close to mid range.The messenger,from what I've heard,behaves similarly to red death.Meaning that it can easily kill you in 2-3 bursts and it can fire quickly.The scholar is just another hard hitting low recoil scout rifle,which agains like the other two can outclass thorn.They were built for PvP. Hopefully some people realize that there is more than one way to skin a cat,or that you can beat thorn without thorn Edit:Necrochasm is apparently good too.I didn't say it.Some dude in the comments did Edit #2:Cause the playas gonna play play play.H8rs gonna h8 h8 h8.Imma shake it off,shake it off. Edit #3We are at 1000 replies.Let this thread die

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  • Yea. But thorn accomplishes all of these things and it's all rolled in to one. I use one and I hope they need the hell out of it...after they give me my hawkmoon

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  • Why does Timur's Lash never get any love? I do better with that than Thorn.

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    • Ok there is literally no arguing that is pretty much un-counter-able, besides reddeath, and even then you need to hit two [u]bursts[/u] meaning 6 bullets instead of 2. Mida and vision aren't that great, not bad, but its indisputable that thorn the best weapon in game, and its dot definitely needs a nerf from 7 to 5 damage per tick, or shorten the dot time

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      • Dont fear the gun, fear the man behind the gun OP weapon is trash in the hand of unskilled player B)

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        • Was using Oversoul Edict until I got Payment VI <3 <3 <3 Works well against Thorn but not at all times, I admit lol ahah.

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        • The Last Word? Hawkmoon?

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        • Ive been using the last word and mida

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        • Scholar is great but it fires that fraction too slow so you gotta have your cover/strafe game on when facing thorn. If it's rof was slightly faster it would be insanely good.

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        • Edited by Erijian: 6/7/2015 8:51:05 AM
          Red Death? You mean that Pulse Rifle that takes three bursts to kill me because I have The Ram? And three bursts ends up being a TTK of 1.005..Welcome to Auto Rifle levels Red Death users.

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        • Are you on Xbox? Because Hawkmoon outclasses them all

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        • There is no pvp difference between adept and normal ToO weapons.

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        • The messenger is definitely on par, new favourite crucible weapon

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        • I'm really enjoying my Mida, and using it with radiant dance machines is just amazing. I was using Thorn for a while but I got bored with it. People will stop using it eventually, its really not that much better than any other gun.

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        • Hawkmoon/Thorn user here. I just made the switch to MIDA and Holy Hell this thing destroys. I haven't had the chance to use it on Iron Banner/Trials since I'm still maxing it out but in regular Crucible it rekta.

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        • Bro thorn is so OP needs nerfz now!! *gets thorn bounty* Bro thorn is not OP! Git gud scrub! Fun fact: I run thorn for pvp, I love it.

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          • Shin Malphur ftw

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            • Hiw about last word I heard the messanger was good too I wish i didnt dismantle the one that dropped and the adept one i got

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              • Edited by threepwood: 6/7/2015 7:35:02 AM
                Dude pls u never played pvp ? A skilled player with thorn or tlw wins vs any other weapon.

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                • It's only used for the DoT , just a cheap ass kill ....no skill .pop pop hide ...

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                  • Agreed scouts and pulses will defeat it. and get in close to a person using Thorn and they panic and miss their shots. With that being said if I'm in a close ToO match and its 3-3 for instance I will switch to thorn because well I can reliably land two consecutive head shots with it which will kill them. But I still prefer the two shot headshot king known as timurs lash.

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                    • If that were true, everyone wouldn't be running around with a Thorn. Any weapon CAN beat it. That doesn't mean it isn't OP.

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                    • Lol at vision being better than thorn. Try to use vision against a team full of thorns and tell me how it's goes

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                      • Good summary. I use VoC, MIDA and Spare Change (almost identical to Messenger). A team of Thorns is still annoying because it is a lingering damage party, but one-on-one these guns are just as good, if not better, than Thorn.

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                      • I have one that always beats thorn but ill never tell. XD

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                      • All of this is wrong based on the simple fact that people flock towards what is best naturally.

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