After seeing so many people complain about thorn being too op and needing a nerf(even though it doesn't need one)I've decided to compile a list of weapons that could outclass thorn in a PvP battle.These are personal experience and weapon stat based.
These are in no particular order
1.Red Death
This exotic pulse rifle has great range,impact and rate of fire.It can kill guardians in [b]two[/b] bursts,which would easily outclass thorn.It will heal you after kills,so it negates the DoT.Easily one of the best PvP weapons in the game
2.MIDA Multi Tool
Underestimated by most of Destiny's community,this beast can allow you to strafe easily and land crits.It can fire quicker than most other scout rifles,and with it doing about 55 crit dmg per hit,it can take down someone's health pretty quickly.If you have the aim,this thing will wreck in the right hands.
3.Spare Change.25
Carbon copy of red death.Except frees up an exotic slot.Kills in two bursts,and has great range and stability for a pulse rifle
4.Vex Mythoclast
While at medium to long range this gun cannot perform well,at close it's an absolute beast.Its high impact of a fusion rifle and it's fire rate proves it to hit hard.Since most of Destiny's maps are close range(example:Cauldron,Pantheon,Anomaly) it tends to have an easy time on most maps.Run with it and you will most likely win all of your 1v1s in crucible
5.Almost all Osiris exclusive primaries
These weapons are awarded to people who go undefeated in trials,and they're definitely worth it.While also being stellar PvE weapons,they have proved themselves in PvP.The jewel of Osiris has better stats than thorn(other than rate of fire)and can defeat it at close to mid range.The messenger,from what I've heard,behaves similarly to red death.Meaning that it can easily kill you in 2-3 bursts and it can fire quickly.The scholar is just another hard hitting low recoil scout rifle,which agains like the other two can outclass thorn.They were built for PvP.
Hopefully some people realize that there is more than one way to skin a cat,or that you can beat thorn without thorn
Edit:Necrochasm is apparently good too.I didn't say it.Some dude in the comments did
Edit #2:Cause the playas gonna play play play.H8rs gonna h8 h8 h8.Imma shake it off,shake it off.
Edit #3We are at 1000 replies.Let this thread die
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I like my zero point LOTP with full auto...stability is good for me too..it's on my warlock
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1 ReplyWhat about the summoner? Lol
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1 ReplyThe ram laughs at thorn. The ram laughs at shoulder charge. The ram laughs at red death.
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5 RepliesWheres the Last Word
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OMG that was such a great story! Do you have time to tell it again? Do you?
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9 RepliesVision of confluence does not belong on this list. Hawkmoon and last word both are better than thorn.
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TLW is better
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10 RepliesIt's all about the person with the gun. But thorn I would say is more noob friendly because it's really easy to use.
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10 RepliesBetter needs some context. At short range: TLW and Vex is better At medium range: TLW and Vex CAN be better, but harder. At any range, Red Death is about even. Thorn allows you to be more mobile (jump shots) and Thorn can hit is some instances where Red Death cannot (like attacking an enemy above you who also has cover). Mida and Vision. Not better. Trials weapons. The only one with a shot is Messenger but the slower fire rate makes it less forgiving than Red Death. The TTK is the same and it can kill with fewer headshot bullets probably. It has radar and doesn't take up exotic slot and the range is RETARDED on this gun (I've 2-pulsed snipers from truck to water tower on rusted lands).
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8 RepliesWell this definitely isn't he only problem with this post, but I know from experience that Red Death healing doesn't negate DoT. It should but it doesn't.
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1 Reply1) the last word: fast, hard hitting, deadly rounds, even if you don't care where you're shooting 2) vex mythoclast: rapidly will rip through many enemies with ease, especially with a mag of 35 3) red death: will surely leave a mark with multiple headshots and a decent mag, also holding the health regen perk will allow kills streaks with ease 4) MIDA multi-tool: stable, strong, and well built will allow many rounds to be fired continuously with a stable, agile scope into the other team 5) Bad juju: much like red death, this weapon will wipe out the team with a stable, solid aim, and will grow powerful with the many kills that follow
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Lol, no.
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25 RepliesSo much bullshit in one post, Jesus Christ.
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1 ReplyTechnical no.....the ttk on thorn is stupid...... It all comes down to" skill " [spoiler]word used lightly [/spoiler]
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13 RepliesIt's funny because none of those weapons are better
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Hawkmoon
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Hawkmoon
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Everything is better than thorn, just move around and get that crucial head shot
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Not MIDA, Vision, Jewel, or Scholar in a mid ranged 1v1
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You forgot to say any green weapon because thorn is trash.
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9 RepliesDont think so, maybe the LAST WORD that You dont even consider in that list. Vision And Mida dont stand a chance go to Trials with them And You get destroyed.
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2 RepliesI love the Hawkmoon. Switched to Thorn this week in IB for the first time in 6 months, after about 5 matches I swapped it back for my Hawkmoon. I also dont think the Vex is any good anymore in PvP. Something is wrong with it still and even after i ascended it to 365, it still feels like overly hard work to kill another guardian given the ease with some other weapons.
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1.Golden gun 2.Nova Bomb 3.bladedancer 4.Fist of havoc 5.warlock self res after being killed
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1-Last Word 2-Hawkmoon 3-Vex 4-Vision of Confluence 5-MIDA
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You'd think you would get a good pvp weapon after playing one of the most competitive pvp activities there is :p
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Yea. But thorn accomplishes all of these things and it's all rolled in to one. I use one and I hope they need the hell out of it...after they give me my hawkmoon