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"Everyone Fights. No one quits." can Go to Hell

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"We’ve seen you backing out of matches on final approach in your ships because you saw formidable opponents on the other team. That tactic could earn you a restriction from future Trials of Osiris events. Please stick it out and fight – even if you know you’re about to be visited by tourists from the Lighthouse." - DeeJ, Weekly Update 6/4/15 I don't give a -blam!-. I don't owe that other team my time. I don't owe them my ass to stomp. If [i]your[/i] matchmaking system pushes me against a group that severely, [i]obviously[/i] outclasses my group of guys that has yet to get to the Lighthouse, I don't - nor does anybody else - [i]owe[/i] them our deaths. Our penalty is on our card in the form of the loss we take. If you have a problem with people backing out of these matches, [i]then don't count them as a Win for the other team[/i]. Trials of Osiris has some serious design flaws. [i]Solve them.[/i] UPDATE: I should have edited this sooner, I apologize. I am aware of the Change Character exploit some folks may have been doing to avoid a loss. I was admittedly fuzzy on this issue when I initially posted. I believe a lot of my argument still stands, however, and, as others have noted in their replies, Trials of Osiris needs something done to its matchmaking. A simple step in matching Lighthouse Veterans to other Lighthouse Veterans, for instance, would do loads of good in evening the competition by placing the Proven against the Proven, and the Aspiring against the Aspiring.

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  • Edited by BigDaddyE47: 6/5/2015 5:36:36 PM
    I agree with you 100% in principle, however I can't get behind the quitting so I don't participate. I find it immensely frustrating that I paid for a DLC that excludes me from the majority of the activities because I'm not a skilled enough player(seriously, -blam!- you Bungie, if you had told me this was going to be hard mode I would have kept my money), but that's life - I'm not going to try to exploit the situation, i'm just not participating.

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  • This is a direct message to DeeJ: It's OUR choice to back out of a game. We are already punished for it by recieving a loss on our scorecards. We have asked MULTIPLE times for matchmaking options to filter out groups for those of us who play alone or with 1-2 people on our fireteam. Pitting us against a team of 6 with randoms is UNFAIR. This is adding insult to injury. Make a different playlist for those who have made it to the Lighthouse or remove this piece of garbage excuse.

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  • Bungie can suck my dick I'll play their game however I want

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  • ToO doesn't have design flaws. [i]You[/i] have reasonable expectation flaws. If you're not good enough, deal with it or play something else.

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  • I'm fine with people leaving. Give me a free win. Don't know why Bungie cares

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    • He's talking about the glitch where you back out before flying in so you don't take a loss

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      • Ever served in the military? Guess not. It shows. Bungie says be a man and stand your ground scrub. You die, you fail. Get back up and try again. Your complaint sounds like you grew up with a silver spoon in your mouth and expect everything to go your way...

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      • Exactly. Bungie can't tell me when to back out and when not to. What? I'm banned from future trials? Really? It's obvious I suck at pvp if I'm backing out. Like banning me from future trials is gonna matter. Nope! Stop forcing people to play the game how YOU want them to Bungie.

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      • You obviously don't know that if you back out while flying in, you get a free win

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        • The only design flaw is that you are entering the trials expecting to get an easy walk to the lighthouse. Why do you want everything handed to you. If you want to go to the lighthouse you're going to have to beat people that have already been there. Trials isn't broken, it's meant for you to face the best of the best. If you don't like it and quit out because you're scared, go to church. I face full lighthouse teams in trials all the time. They aren't anything special.

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        • bungie has to do this since they know their pvp is horse shit and some of the worst in the business.

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        • This is just my opinion but if I'm positive that I'm going to lose the match, why shouldn't I be allowed to back out? The other team still wins and my team still loses. Instead I'm presented with an ultimatum: spend 10 minutes getting my ass kicked (which isn't fun and will likely discourage me from trying again) or be banned from trials. Both are the same result: I never play trials of osiris again.

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          • From my understanding, what Bungie is referring to is the people who check load outs before landing and hit the change character before they land, the game doesn't register a loss for this action. Many have started doing this giving away free wins therefore Bungie has resorted to punishing this action. [spoiler]To each his own opinion[/spoiler]

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            • Yes we should totally make it harder for good players to reach the lighthouse by only pairing them against other good teams, that way crap players have a better chance to get top tier gear. It's called end game PvP content. If you can't handle it, go play control. I enjoy preying on the weak, I relish seeing a losing team pop up with "trial passage completed" from a loss. Enough hand outs.

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              • I kind of agree, but I've never backed out while entering the atmosphere to avoid playing them...

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              • Edited by Mr McLovin: 6/5/2015 5:07:30 PM
                trials is supposed to be a challenge and youre not always going to be paired up with someone you can easily beat. this is an endgame activity for those who think theyre good at pvp, so its not supposed to be easy. to be good in any pvp based game youre supposed to work well as a team and overcome the challenges you face and not back out till you get an easy win. obviously youre not always going to win and because of that you just need to keep playing till you get better instead of quitting till you get matched up with people who arent as good

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              • how do you know you are outclassed without trying? my team has played many people who have been to the lighthouse and beat them silly. you never know also because of babies like you, my team doesnt equip their light house banners we equip generic ones with crappy weapons on the fly in this way if the team we are to play inspects us they think we are stupid noobs, that is till the game starts and they see we are all using thorn, felwinters,/spear

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                • I dont see anything wrong with it but dont spawn me in matches that have already started either

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                • I agree. If the win/loss percentage is so important, than it should be applied to regular crucible. Iron banner has coins, trials has the card, regular crucible has nothing. Accountibility. It already exists. Stop forcing players to play the way you want. [spoiler]honestly, it's like saying you can't take a break and calm down, you need to get over hyped and angry, and eventually rage quit. It is REQUIRED.[/spoiler]

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                • [spoiler]You just want an easy win[/spoiler]

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                • i would agree. when i read the weekly update, i was a little confused, why punish people who are backing out? THey already are punished by having a big fat red dot on their card. Why would they be banned?

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                  • The only time we backed out is when someone disconnected before a game. Then if everyone gets out before game ends no loss for anyone

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                  • You don't have to back out at the beginning of the game you dumbass, for all you know they got carried to the lighthouse...

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                  • This update was for people logging out to character selection before landing resulting in the loss not appearing on the card. It was a way around the system that is being punished. If you land in and decide to go to orbit and take your loss you aren't going to get in trouble that is your choice. Don't get all angry when you don't even understand what they are punishing though

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                  • "[i]The Crucible is not a challenge to be taken lightly.[/i]" - Lord Shaxx The funny thing is that even the average PvP player (such as myself) can make it to the Lighthouse. Either you're just really terrible at PvP or just plain lazy.

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