At current, our philosophy about endgame content is that part of the challenge includes forming up a team. This is a strong community filled with players who are looking for teammates. Why not seek each other out here and band together?
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I'm fairly sure he said he doesn't really play in one of the weekly updates.
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That's ridiculous. If he doesn't play, how can understand the issues the community are raising. That's like being a car salesman and not driving!
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He doesn't, read the weekly updates better. He is a conduit for information, Both up and down.
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No he doesn't
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Edited by Malphisto: 7/6/2015 4:53:34 AMThere was a LOT that he wrote in that first post. Only a 3 sentence reply? Don't get me wrong, its great that you responded to something on here. Its a step in the right direction. But more communication and responding to MORE threads/posts is still required.
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I don't think any of you guys realise how many new threads and posts are created every second, let alone in one day. He's one guy, give him a break
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Because people want to play the game, not use your app. As many have said, this just feels like a ploy to lengthen the game out for players. If players can't join in on raids or other endgame activities because they don't have friends, you end up with players who need to play more to luck into decent items and Bungie has a warped "Players Who Have Attempted/Completed a Raid" statistic. That statistic was surely pointed to as reasoning behind the lack of a raid in HoW. That statistic alone should reinforce why optional matchmaking is needed for endgame activities. Do you really think people wouldn't make the friends they need to run raids with by meeting them through matchmaking? Offer it on Nightfalls and normal mode raids only to continue some of your necessary progression blocking. Just give it to players so you can never point to stats that only exist because of your inflexibility towards player requests.
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This statement is actually Bungie-speak for: "We know if we included optional matchmaking for endgame material, it will be too easy for most players to complete the missions and earn all the endgame gear. Then people will grow too bored too quickly, and stop playing our rather shallow and repetitive shooter game. Therefore we will leave out matchmaking so that the majority of players will have to struggle ("be challenged") to find a fireteam, making it more difficult to complete the endgame tasks."
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Dude I still enjoy playing it after about 1600 hours. That's more time than any other game I've played.
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[quote]This statement is actually Bungie-speak for: "We know if we included optional matchmaking for endgame material, it will be too easy for most players to complete the missions and earn all the endgame gear.[/quote] Doh! Forgot one minor detail in ur critical thinking - drop rate. MM wont help u get the drop ur looking for. Example: gonna run Crota so I can finally get the boots. Joins via MM, completes raid. Still didn't get boots. Still have to wait till next week.
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But MM makes it much easier to play raids with all three characters both nm and hm... Giving you more chances for the drops you want. As it is, the majority are lucky to find a team to run it with one character per week, let alone complete all checkpoints with that character. Raids are time consuming for casual players, and often have to be broken up into checkpoints. Matchmaking would make access to all these checkpoints of all the raids much easier to complete. Trust me, it's totally a tactic on Bungies part to restrict access to endgame material by omitting optional matchmaking from the game. For me, I would always play weekly heroic, all 3 characters as the first thing to do at reset. Why? Because it had auto matchmaking, so it was convenient.
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This rings true on so many levels.
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100% agree.
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DeeJ, as your paying customers, our philosophy is about having the option. Please start respecting us a little more, we deserve that, honestly we do. Optional match-making would take work to put in, and some cost, that's the real reason. But so far I've invested the cost of two games and got in my opinion half a game, so please don't patronise us, it's not nice is it?
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You guys don't get that the forums are always active with people searching for fireteam to join. You don't have to play with your friends, it takes five minutes MAX to get a fireteam together. Post on like 3 topics and I have 33 new messages of people wanting to join. I just think all of you are lazy and don't want to put forth the effort to type maybe five words and post it and let the messages roll in. If your having problems with time because of work and tending to a baby or a wife then you need to grow and do what your father wants you to do and tend to your FAMILY. I don't care if it's how you escape or relax. YOU'RE AN ADULT, GO OUT AND DO SOMETHING! That's my two cents.
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It's not laziness on our part. It's laziness on Bungies part to not make an engaging enough game that they have to resort to these outside of game tactics to make the endgame more difficult to attain. Go ahead and support them with your defense of LFG websites and external forums, but realize that you are being played a fool for thinking that it's a legit way to have to play a multiplayer game.
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He was talking about the forum your using right now.
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What's so hard about going out and finding people to do this end game content with? Please God tell me.
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Well when you get home from late shift and want to just jump into a raid, but first have to jump on forums and find people interested and available... Then have to add them as friends on your list using Xbox smartglass app on your phone, then sign out of Destiny so the friends list refreshes and you can actually see them to invite them... Do this x5 people. It can become a time consuming drag. It has happened to me most times where it literally takes 30 minutes just to find a fireteam to be able to get rolling. It's exhausting and tedious and unnecessary if matchmaking were optional. Matchmaking would take literally 60 seconds tops to gather a team. Please for the love of God, tell me, why do you care if people want optional matchmaking? How would it affect you personally? Why are you trolling this discussion? Do you think everyone in the world should share your opinion? If you don't like matchmaking, and prefer to use LFG forums, you could turn off the option in your game settings and do exactly as you do now. But I guarantee you'd end up using it in the long run, especially NF and 34 or 35 PoE.
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I read the first couple sentences and threw up. All you have to do is open up his/her profile and say invite to game and party and your good to go.
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Same.
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In fact I'm not sure I made it past the first few words.
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Thank you for trolling and bumping this thread.