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Edited by dazarobbo: 3/18/2015 5:31:12 AM
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A Roc please sir, hold the cheese.

Just finished playing some strikes from the Roc playlist and was amazed at the number of players cheesing certain sections. [i]Archon Priest[/i] Players sniping from the cliff or on the ketch while clearing the 3 waves of vex. Players sniping the boss from up on the cliff. [i]Nexus[/i] Players staying up on the ledge or in the cheesing spot during the boss fight. [i]Phogoth[/i] Players sniping from the shrieker room, never really being able to contribute seeing as how the rest of us have him aggro'd down the other end of the room. Why do people do this? Is it laziness, or just old-fashioned scrubbery? Funnily enough, these players usually finished with less than half as many kills, yet were consistently awarded the best loot. "Oh look, you got 33 kills, have a Mida Multi Tool". "What's that, sir? You were dead most of the strike? Legendary Engram". *Shakes fist at sky* "Curse you RNG! Curse you.

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  • I feel you, but sometimes hunters gotta keep a distance. I know what you're saying on the archon priest though. They should block off from the tallest cliff to the bridge going to the skiff or something along those lines. Honestly, if you have the gear and you adapt well to the game then no strike or raid is really hard. Solo or with a full fireteam.

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  • That's not "cheesing" that's called a safe spot, nothing wrong with that as long as they're actively contributing. I'd rather have them be safe instead of running around like a moron dying every minute tbh.

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  • Edited by yo_its_Rev: 3/18/2015 7:37:19 AM
    Don't snipe guys. That's cheesing. Take your time. Kill EVERY single enemy. Or you are cheesing. Why do you guys not understand this? Please Bungie. Remove all snipers.

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    • I wouldn't really consider sniping from the cliff for the three waves of vex cheesing.. That's just sniping

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      • I've seen people cheesing on level 12 strikes... It's common for many weak players to only fight when they feel they have a distinct advantage. It's just their personality...

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        • If its Nightfall I say go for it. Restarting a Nightfall sucks jibbletts. But for ROC strike its ridiculous. If you go down in those more than once or at all you shouldn't even be doing them.

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        • Your probably whining because your running around like a scrub and no one is near you to pick you up when you get slapped by a shank Since when is finding a spot with a tactical advantage cheese Dumb post is dumb

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          • I used to very much agree, cheesing ROC strikes is bad. Always engage the most enemies, always jump down to fight waves of vex at the nexus strike....recently i dont care so much. Ive done all the strikes countless times each, who am i trying to impress? So i just do them however i feel at the time.

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            • That's not cheese, that's called using your brains and it falls under strategy. If you are in a war and you can minimise the risk of being killed and maximise killing the enemy, do you hear anyone calling that cheesing? Tell that to the american snipers because they can kill from afar and minimise their risk of exposure to enemy fire. Shit while we are at it, using drones to drop bombs on enemy targets to take them out is also cheesing isn't it??!! The atomic bomb must be the ultimate cheese. Took out 2 cities - two planes only - -blam!- yeah cheese city all right?!

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              • I would agree with you if I did them for fun. But guess what? I don't. I'd much rather stay on the cliff at archonpriest and kill him in less than a minute than having to run arround and revive my scrub teammates every ten seconds. In the end, what does playing a strike normally give you? That's right, nothing at all. You get rewards faster when you skip sections and "cheese" the bosses which I'd rather prefer to refer to as strategy the same loot/bounties in a shorter time period.

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              • I usually just along with what the others are doing. The only one I think is really stupid is the Phogoth one. If you stay in that room loads of Wizards and Knights spawn...

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              • What's dumb is that it's OK to do it when its hard and requires skill? (Which you remove with cheese) and not OK when it's for something that doesn't matter? I would much rather you cheese than make me pick you up over and over.

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              • Edited by Dyliotic: 3/18/2015 6:31:11 AM
                People really stay in the shrieker room at phogoth? I go in with a black hammer since each shot stuns him, hoping the other guys understand what I am doing and keeping the trash mobs away from me.

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                • Edited by Gillbates55 : 3/18/2015 6:23:36 AM
                  Who even does roc strikes for anything but ships?

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                  • I used to always jump down on nexus but lately for ROC I prefer to stay up top simply because it's quicker. If I am grinding ROC for marks or whatever then whatever completes the same boring strikes over and over again the quickest is what I will use.

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                  • I cheese Nexus because you can constantly shoot without being interrupted. Do you play strikes for the "fun and experience" or for the rewards?

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                    • I shoulder charged this one guy yesterday off the ledge in Nexus strike LOL He then messaged me angrily... So funny

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                      • Archon: I like to use weapons with scopes so sniping suits that play style. The cliff is perfect. Not the upper cliff but the middle level one. This applies to the boss as well. I'd rather use that lower cliff and black hammer than running around trying to get a shot.

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                        • Erm okay il remember that getting shot is a good thing and playing tactical is bad

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                          • People that dont understand that it ruins the fun, will probably never understand. There is no actual point in this game of getting engrams or maxing out the marks to buy stuff. That gear does not make you a god in pvp and there is nothing more to do in pve. Play the strikes for fun, stop cheapening the experience.

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                          • I dont consider the sniping during the ketch part of archon priest, cheese and the other ones (except phogoth, which is just plain retarded if people do that) are just ways to make things go quicker

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                          • err.. correct if I'm wrong, but almost all sections mention "sniping". Best snipers can do their thing from up to 2 kilometers away, and that is NOT cheesing, it's sniping strategy.. If you want to run and gun like a mindless lunatic, be my guest. I'm preferring more mature and thoughtful game strategy where sniping from afar is essential part of the game. Sniper has 2 roles. Eliminate enemy snipers and majors and if necessary, act as a healer.

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                            • In ROC is no need for cheese. Shooting at the Nexus from the edge isn't really cheesing. There spawns a Minotaur and the adds, Nexus can fire at you. Phogot Also no need to cheese. But here I have another point to ask. Why the hell people entering this room and fire directly at Phogot? Kill the adds first! The fat boy is easier to kill without them. You are also quicker done... Psion strike At least a few words to the psion strike. This strike isn't that hard anymore. Till they buffed the shotguns for PvE, they are your best weapons against the Psions. Two people can bring down the bastards very fast, the third take care of the adds. Works very well... I use usually invective or swordbreaker.

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                            • Your style of fun may not match others. During that 3 rounds of vex in the Archon strike, I always snipe because I honestly have a ton of fun doing it. It's the only strike you're able to do something like this and I like it. During the Venus strike, sniping from up top is actually regarded as faster than anything else. I personally run and jump to the left set of ledges because I enjoy the sniping aspect and the fact that I don't have to think about mobs. We play to have fun. If you're not, you may want to reevaluate why you're playing the game.

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                            • I think what OP is saying is stop treating ROC strikes like a nightfall.

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                            • It's annoying but you have to let ppl play how they like, at least they're there, not afking at the start!

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