"Challenging" without the burns.... No. Removing the burns just makes me take an extra 10 minutes or less to complete the Nightfall and no Nightfall strikes don't require any more skill than doing it at low level with a low level character.
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Thus week nightfall I thought was going to be hard but when my friends and I did it we got the damn thing done in 10-12 min even without using our Ghorns
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You don't really need Ghorn for it also since its the same thing just more bullet wasted. I think it took me 15 minutes top with two random player.
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Exactly it's not that hard of you know how to use the game mechanics to your advantage such as titan bubble love those in pve