Match making would never work for the raid.
#1 No more save Checkpoint. If it's matchmaking you will no longer be able to stop once you start and continue at another time. Why would I want to rerun the raid from beginning every time when I don't need nor have the time to?
#2. Facing crota/atheon - matchmaking adds in random - they get 0 kills and end up getting exotic / gear and everyone else gets sharded on
#3 useless until a wipe if on hard and gets added
#4 takes actual communication , you will not get that with 6 randoms especially if don't all have mic
#5 don't want to be forced to play with with randoms added in if have group of 4-5 that could easily handle everything
Could go on but no point.
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Assuming the most reasonable reason for the raid to have matchmaking is if it was only an option. So: 1- Just because weeklies don't have a checkpoint save, doesn't mean the raid won't either. 2- No matchmaking raids still have that random factor in, so i don't know what you're talking about. 3- What? lol 4- Assuming the randoms won't have mics, which i doubt anyone won't. It does need comunication, people won't be stupid enough to go unprepared. 5- You would still have the option to go in with your own fireteam, 1 random won't make the difference if you can do it with 5 man fireteam, so no point on crying about it.
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1- that would make no sense I get to crota - back out, match make and get a new team at crota? Would NEVER work. So I'm at gorgons lair, back out , rejoin and 5 random people get a free chest checkpoint ? Makes no sense. 2- "No matchmaking raids still have that random factor in" idk about you but for me it does not. I have 250 ppl on my friends list with groups that I constantly play with there is no randoms when I play unless I go to lfg in which case I could screen the randoms to what we need , example we have 3 hunters a titan and a warlock I don't want anothrr hunter when I could get a titan. 3- Halfway through the bridge or crota - random joins in because open spot....don't need random to win and finish checkpoint giving them free loot for just joining ... Only way they'd be useful in hard joining mid progress would be to wipe as there is no revive on hard. 4- "Assuming the randoms won't have mics, which i doubt anyone won't" -- there are supposedly 12 million guardians. Not all have a mic and not all like to use one. Saysing you doubt anyone wont is bullshit. You have too much faith in humanity if you think they "wouldn't be stupid to go in without a mic" .. This game is not rated M, so many little kids have and play this, I don't want a 12 y/o screaming in the mic with a whiney ass voice ..I rather do omnighoul and hear her scream over and over. 5- 1 random can -blam!- it all up, dies on crota - oversoul....dies when crosses bridge - totem... Dies on atheon, stuck in darkness. Come back to me when you start thinking thanks.
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All these replies just factor in that you don't want to help noobs and new players in raids. If you're so high and mighty, you don't need to be bitching about letting matchmaking into the raid because you already have "250" friends to play with. Other people that don't have friends, and have problems joining raids because they don't have good guns to begin with, can use matchmaking to the upmost potential. You can just raid like you do, while other people matchmake for raids.
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It's people like you who seem to back up my point that noobs would use the MM to get carried through. Its not helping out if they add NOTHING to the team. Our job is not to carry you.
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You're missing the point that if it was implemented, everyone would vote for it to be an option only. Thus, still having the option to run it "superduper hardcore solo challenge mode" like you do. I agree that it should not be put up if it's obligated matchmaking, but as an optional way to run the raid, it could help a lot of people.
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Wow someone actually kept their cool in an argument. Maybe faith in humanity was restored just a bit. Hats off to you. I can agree if it was an option, because that wont effect me in anyway. My argument was for against mandatory MM. But you have to know by now, this game doesn't like there to be options, which is why I'll fight against the MM BC it will be one or the other, not both. Plus, there are still MANY issues that need addressing that should have priority over this. You would rather raid MM or would you rather a better RNG system? A more involved story/NPCs? More vault space? Private crucible matches against friends? A glitch free raid where crota kneels when supposed to and the sword doesn't disappear? Heavy ammo(which thankfully 1.1.1 addresses ) there are a plethora of other things that should be FIXED before new things get added which can and most likely would add even more glitches and lag that already exsist.
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I ageee with you, there are far more important things to be addressed as to raid matchmaking. I apologize if i came on on the wrong foot, now that i read your reason, you do have a point on the mayority of them. But until then, this game just needs work on more important aspects. Iron Banner really needs to calm it's titties down and let PvE events come to us.
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False, I help noobs through normal to acquire the gear to do hard. False, out of my friends list not all are pros, a lot are noobs...but noobs I know/play with. Not random noobs. False, I could not do it the way I want because sometimes I'll want to solo the thrall area / bridge to get the chest or want to practice it to get better. False, you could do both VOG and CE with 4 people, makes it a harder challenge then 6. MM would not give you that option. I never said I was elite, you just assumed that. They could have an implemented LFG to find players, but to be forced to MM is garbage.