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3/16/2012 7:23:59 PM
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Halo: The Thursday War

No, this ain't a fan fic. The sequel to Glasslands, the second installment to Karen Traviss' post war trilogy (Which now appears to be called the "Kilo-5 trilogy" on here) is set to be released on October 2nd. [url=http://www.tor.com/blogs/2012/03/tor-books-announces-next-book-in-halo-series]Source[/url]. [quote]Tor Books has just announced the title and release date for the second novel in the Karen Traviss's "Kilo-Five Trilogy" of Halo books, the follow-up to last October's Halo: Glasslands. Halo: The Thursday War will release on October 2, 2012. Halo: The Thursday War picks up immediately where Halo: Glasslands left off, with forces on Earth and among the Covenant threatening a peace that is precarious at best. With a splinter group among the Sangheili pushing for war, some human colonies rebel against earth authority; and as ONI policy continues to shift with the volatile situation in space, the discovery of a trove of Forerunner technology on Onyx provokes leaders on Earth to seek uses for it in the conflict. For the fight is far from over.... "I wanted to focus on what it feels like to operate in a fragile ceasefire that's turning into a mass of small, unpredictable wars where the enemy is much harder to spot and define," says author Karen Traviss. "It's not about big set piece space battles, superheroes, and hardware; this is a messy conflict seen at close quarters by real people with their own problems, whether those people are human, alien, or artificial intelligences." Traviss, whose first foray into the Halo Universe came with the short story "Human Weakness" in fall 2009's New York Times bestselling "Halo: Evolutions" anthology, launched her new trilogy last fall with the acclaimed bestseller Halo: Glasslands. A veteran author who has penned number one bestselling novels in the Star Wars universe, bestselling novels for the Gears of War franchise (she most recently served as lead game writer for Gears of War 3), as well as her own science fiction series "The Wess'Har Wars." "From the very first page, The Thursday War propels you into a universe on the brink of chaos," says Frank O'Connor, Franchise Development Director, 343 Industries. "It will immerse you immediately and enthrallingly into the events and circumstances that will come to define the state of the Halo universe in Halo 4. I can't wait for fans and newcomers alike to experience the sequel to Glasslands."[/quote] :s [Edited on 03.16.2012 11:25 AM PDT]

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  • Judging a book by its name? Kind of ignorant don't you think. Anyway, since many of you clearly don't know what it's refering to...here you go. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thursday_War[/url]

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  • I'm not planning to buy anymore books, why? - The last books were really bad and boring. (For my Halo style taste) - The lack of Eric Nylund involvement. - Bungie is not part of Halo. I am a Bungie fan, Halo is over for me.

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  • At least she has the good will to not leave us hanging for 5 years.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 It was told why Reach fell in the book..[/quote] It wasn't in enough detail for me then.. Anyway, we're off topic..

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  • It was told why Reach fell in the book.. The covenant tracked a ship and skipped dozens of colonies to reach thinking it was our homeworld (Again). And Halo:Reach was not how it was originally written.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 The Fall of Reach gives the backstory for the spartans and The books ends with Reach being invaded. So seeing how Reach fell in the book it is fine, the entire book didn't need to be about it.[/quote] I understand that, and it's fine. However, we never got a feel for the scope and size and [i] why [/i] it fell until Halo: Reach and a few other sources came out. Would of been nice if FoR would of told us it was all basically ONI's fault.

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  • The Fall of Reach gives the backstory for the spartans and The books ends with Reach being invaded. So seeing how Reach fell in the book it is fine, the entire book didn't need to be about it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] privet caboose This is easily one of the worst names for a book I have ever heard. [/quote] Don't know, The Fall of Reach was pretty much false advertising... /trollface[/quote] Correct if I'm wrong since it's been years since I last read FoR, but weren't there only around 5-6 pages that actually dealt directly with Reach "falling"?

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DecepticonCobra [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Roxas 1220 Grey, Decepticon has been here for like 2-3 years...[/quote] It was a bad quote on his end, me and Grey are pals.[/quote] Yea, i was responding to that Ganon Guy [Edited on 03.22.2012 6:13 AM PDT]

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  • This is just bull-blam!-. The Halo universe had and still has so much potential and that's really what keeps me interested in it, but they decide to make a trilogy on this obvious post war crap. Galsslands was terrible and I dont even think Ill read this one. Since 343 is so confident that they can tell a richer story than inside of the game this time, Ill just play Halo 4 and try to keep up with the Forerunner saga. And personally, I have nothing against Travis. I think shes a good writer but her style just doesnt fit the direction that Halo should be headed in.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Silverback Elite [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thrasher Fan Wow, the plot sounds awful.[/quote] It could be worse, like space magic.[/quote] That's not until the end of the Reclaimer Trilogy.

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  • The name of this book and the trilogy is absolutely unacceptable. PROTOCOL DICTATES ACTION. No seriously, I want to know what happens next, I found Glasslands to be average-to good. But the Thursday War, really? And Kilo-5 trilogy? That is like calling the Forerunner trilogy the [insert Forerunner group here].

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Thrasher Fan Wow, the plot sounds awful.[/quote] It could be worse, like space magic.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] privet caboose This is easily one of the worst names for a book I have ever heard. [/quote] Don't know, The Fall of Reach was pretty much false advertising... /trollface

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  • This is easily one of the worst names for a book I have ever heard.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GanonSmash and I don't see a reason for the hate other than the fact that the story is moving in a different direction than some fans had expected.[/quote] I don't really like it when a series receives a change in writing team or author. I feel that the original feel and direction of the series gets lost over time. Given that 343i is a completely separate company from Bungie, people are more critical at this point in seeing how they plan to handle things. People are looking at the previous stories set by Bungie and comparing them to the direction 343i is taking it. I don't buy into this notion that they can take it wherever they want. They can't. There are certain directions which would be disrespectful and damaging to Halo's pre-existing story. 343i should expand and add to the fiction, not redefine it and overwrite entire paradigms, if such a thing should ever happen, that is. (Which I think happened) If it were Joseph Staten heading things over at 343i then I would shut up and stomach it, but it is not. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GanonSmash Like, there's actually complaints that months after a 25+ year war, the humans and Elites aren't BFFs 4evar.[/quote] Oh yes, aren't those people annoying. Anyway though, she did the same thing Tobias Buckell did. Assume that the Sangheili all have the same culture and therefore the same values, social views and opinions on things. This background then combined with things like the Sangheili accepting Brutes leaves literal impressions that Halo 3's developments are irrelevant; it feels like a facetious and pernicious backhander to the atmosphere and developments of the game. Though at least she did not include some over-the-top things that Buckell included, like the Bushido on steriods act. And to be quite frank with you, I find this whole 25+ year war stuff from the Sangheili's point of view irrelevant. (Though it is perfectly valid from the Human perspective. Don't assume that I think the two are equivalent. That pisses me off when I see morons say that.) It is entirely possible to show the social effects of this war, the uphill political battles and the struggle of progressive social attitudes (Like N'tho 'Sroam) against the old ones (Like Jul), whilst maintaining the theme in Halo 3 that peace is possible and that the two races in particular have potential to develop a lasting relationship. Not only is the battle on Sanghelios a pointless exploration of a conflict that is inconsequential to the welfare of Humanity (Thus why should the reader care who wins or loses when all factions are essentially the same? Why do the Sangheili get attention and not the Brutes in this case? What is so special about them?), it refutes the ideas in Halo 3. It also makes the Great Schism a blatant dues ex machina. The reasons for it were a least weaved into the story and built up to a climax in Halo 2, despite it being pulled out of Bungie's ass to make it believable that Humanity could survive. Now it is beyond silly for me. The decision of Truth to wipe out the Elites was made with extremely poor timing no matter what he did it for, but at the very least these reason should be based upon something serious. The reasons he supposedly did so were because of the dangerous opinions that were spreading throughout the Sangheili, making them less loyal and very prone to break away from the Covenant. This obviously involved them questioning the war against Humanity, among other things. I don't know what sort of mental gymnastics one would have to employ to deny that. Now though, the Sangheili just simply believed in everything right up until the end, and then Truth just decided to wipe them out when victory was previously assured beyond a shadow of a doubt, for no reason. There is also no meaningful difference between the Sangheili and Brutes either in this story. I did not see any of it from Glasslands. They both seem as bad as each other, and any "difference" in their susceptibility to sway from the path is trivial and sort of pointless information, with no overall impact to anything else in the story. Someone pointing it out as justification for Truth's motives at this point is weak at best. If the Sangheili only doubted their faith but not the war on Humanity, then what caused them to doubt their faith this bad at this point in their history as opposed to any of the previous 3000 years in the Covenant? It is beyond a co-incidence that it lines up with the war on Humanity. And if they doubt their faith, then why not doubt the rest of the faith's injunctions? Like I said, there is some mental gymnastics in there for nay-sayers I think. Glasslands does not feel like a continuation post Halo 3 to me. I feel it has nothing to do with the story Halo 3 left us. Seems like there are people who think that it is impossible for someone to be forced to commit genocide but also feel that it is wrong, and think that stopping the act of genocide because you think it is wrong is somehow impossible. All I ever see is the same jaded excuse, "b...b...but war!!!! D:". It almost feels like whoever gave Traviss the facts to write with were the same idiots who gave the first edition of the Halo Encyclopedia a pass, because some of the novel's premises, never mind its conclusions, are seemingly flawed and logically absurd. As a standalone novel however, it is fairly decent, which makes me look at 343i with increased skepticism. [Edited on 03.21.2012 9:25 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Leaf Dragoon now that you mention it glasslands really wasn't all that great, I didn't mind until now because I was just happy to find out what happened to the spartans inside the sphere.[/quote] They find a Forerunner parking garage. That's it really.

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  • now that you mention it glasslands really wasn't all that great, I didn't mind until now because I was just happy to find out what happened to the spartans inside the sphere.

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  • Read title with Yiddish accent. Best thing ever.

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  • I'll be fine as long as no one kills the Arbiter. The only blatant problem I noted is that 'Vadam had a Brute as a guard in his keep. We all know that the Arbiter extremely hates the brutes and would not have allowed such a thing to occur. As much as I hate to sound picky, it's thigs like this that show me that the author doesn't really know what she's talking about.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Roxas 1220 Grey, Decepticon has been here for like 2-3 years...[/quote] It was a bad quote on his end, me and Grey are pals. [Edited on 03.19.2012 5:34 PM PDT]

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  • [url=http://rationalwiki.org/w/images/5/50/Waaambulance.jpg]ITT[/url]

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  • Grey, Decepticon has been here for like 2-3 years...

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  • I hope Parangosky makes more appearances in it.

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  • I'm looking forward to it.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carolina Bring back Nylund for gods sake![/quote]

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