Earlier today I created quite a few polls in order to gauge gamers' true feelings on some of the most controversial topics currently raging in the Destiny in the community. Many of you have voted and left your comments, and while I'm positive that this discussion isn't over, I would like to attempt to synthesize the results. Of course, there could be a number of reasons why the results are the way they are as it is unscientific, but hopefully it can tell us something constructive.
The first thing to note is that, despite all the flaws people see, they really are happy overall with the game and will continue playing - a small amount will be waiting for the House of Wolves to see if enough things will get fixed for them to want to continue playing. Moreover, a majority, although not as overwhelming, are happy with the Dark Below despite all its criticisms. People also weren't concerned with the game being unbalanced, despite the complaints of many "nerfers." They were also pretty split on raid matchmaking, but a majority didn't feel the need for it.
That said, there are many issues that players want fixed. The first, and most obvious, is that they want more room. Overwhelmingly, players want more space for currencies, especially glimmer, and more vault space. They also want more variety - variety in missions, strikes, and especially bounties and patrols which feel much too grindy. In particular, people expressed that the same strikes and PvP maps pop up too many times in a row. Many would like some way to make sure that we can variety in our playlists. I think that this feeling of "grindiness" also come from a lack of content, which a majority feel is missing. Some variety as I stated earlier may help with this, but so may a better in game story which most felt were missing. I think this stems from the type of gaming community that this game attracted - those who were looking for an epic MMORPG with FPS elements; something in the form of Mass Effect, or a cross between Skyrim and Halo. This is what people were expecting but they don't feel like Bungie delivered.
Players are also quite upset with the RNG system. They really want some way for excellence to be rewarded, and for hard work to be rewarded. Either that, or they want trading. Getting coins or materials from a nightfall are raid upset most, as does allowing last place players to get exotics while first place players get nothing. This is likely why people are so upset with both the new gear progression system, and the limited time events (such as Iron Banner). They want their hard work to be rewarded and not to be thrown away so willy-nilly. Interestingly though, the Xur's RNG doesn't seem to bother most.
With all these concerns, many feel like Bungie has not been doing enough to give community feedback and to listen to players, particularly in the weekly updates.
And, of course, everyone would like to see a third subclass :)
[b]IN SHORT:[/b] The players are overwhelmingly happy with the game for one reason or another. However, they would like to see a number of improvements both big and small. They would like to see more content and variety as repetitiveness is an issue, and definitely an increase to the currency/vault space caps. More story is very important and many were expecting more MMORPG elements. The currency/materials systems in place aren't too bad, but could use some reworking, and there are some technical issues that could be resolved. The RNG system definitely needs to be fixed though - people really hate that. The current gear progression system needs to be fixed so that we don't feel like our hard work is for nothing, and limited time events need an overhaul. We would also like to see more community involvement and feedback from Bungie.
[u]Overall - it's a decent game, but it needs quite a lot of work to be great.[/u]
Be sure to keep this post going and add your comments!
If you haven't seen the polls yet, feel free to check them out, vote, and leave your comments!
Vault Space: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85035058/0/0
Missions/Strikes: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85031628/0/0
Third Subclass: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85039540/0/0
Competitive: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85039087/0/0
Timed Restrictions: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85038544/0/0
Materials: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85037617/0/0
Currency: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85037076/0/0
Continue Playing: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85036429/0/0
Patrols: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85035793/0/0
Bounties: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85035362/0/0
Glimmer cap: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85034611/0/0
MMORPG: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85034308/0/0
Game you expected: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85033203/0/0
Balance: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85032809/0/0
Glitches: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85032430/0/0
Raid matchmaking: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/84942358/0/0 (not mine)
Story: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85031290/0/0
TDB: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85030889/0/0
Xur: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85030409/0/0
Events: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85029804/0/0
Content: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85029141/0/0
RNG: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85028754/0/0
Overall: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85028263/0/0
Gear Progression: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85027620/0/0
Iron Banner 3.0: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/84799539/0/0 (not mine)
Currency Limits: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/84591745/0/0 (not mine)
Weekly Update: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/85062620
[b]EDIT[/b]: Some people suggested that I gather all the raw data, so here it is. As of approximately 7:30 cst on December, 17, this is the data from the polls. Feel free to extrapolate any conclusions you wish from the data, and leave it in the comments. Also, be sure to leave any suggestions you have for Bungie! Thanks everyone for participating and don't stop the conversation!
Enough Vault Space?: [b]Yes[/b] - 44 votes, 8% [b]No[/b] - 485 votes, 92%
Missions/Strikes too repetitive?: [b]Yes[/b] - 423 votes, 84% [b]No[/b] - 83 votes, 16%
Would you like a Third Subclass?: [b]Yes[/b] - 509 votes, 98% [b]No[/b] - 12 votes, 2%
Do you want Destiny to be more Competitive?: [b]Yes[/b] - 132 votes, 55% [b]No[/b] - 110 votes, 45%
Happy with Timed Restrictions?: [b]Yes[/b] - 152 votes, 42% [b]No[/b] - 210 votes, 58%
Happy with Materials system?: [b]Yes[/b] - 184 votes, 48% [b]No[/b] - 198 votes, 52%
Happy with Currency system?: [b]Yes[/b] - 107 votes, 33% [b]No[/b] - 213 votes, 67%
Continue Playing?: [b]Yes[/b] - 229 votes, 71% [b]No[/b] - 33 votes, 10% [b]HoW[/b] - 59, 18%
Want more variety for Patrols?: [b]Yes[/b] - 253 votes, 92% [b]No[/b] - 22 votes, 8%
Want more variety for Bounties?: [b]Yes[/b] - 264 votes, 95% [b]No[/b] - 14 votes, 5%
Happy with Glimmer cap?: [b]Yes[/b] - 50 votes, 6% [b]No[/b] - 788 votes, 94%
Mainly MMORPG or mainly FPS?: [b]MMORPG[/b] - 295 votes, 69% [b]FPS[/b] - 135 votes, 31%
Game you expected?: [b]Yes[/b] - 130 votes, 31% [b]No[/b] - 288 votes, 69%
Game unBalanced?: [b]Yes[/b] - 61 votes, 25% [b]No[/b] - 183 votes, 75%
Too many Glitches?: [b]Yes[/b] - 147 votes, 59% [b]No[/b] - 102 votes, 41%
Raid matchmaking?: [b]Yes[/b] - 410 votes, 51% [b]No[/b] - 397 votes, 49%
Happy with the Story?: [b]Yes[/b] - 260 votes, 17% [b]No[/b] - 1273 votes, 83%
Happy with TDB?: [b]Yes[/b] - 254 votes, 60% [b]No[/b] - 166 votes, 40%
Happy with Xur?: [b]Yes[/b] - 578 votes, 62% [b]No[/b] - 350 votes, 38%
Happy with limited time Events?: [b]Yes[/b] - 92 votes, 33% [b]No[/b] - 185 votes, 67%
Enough Content?: [b]Yes[/b] - 239 votes, 34% [b]No[/b] - 463 votes, 66%
Happy with RNG?: [b]Yes[/b] - 313 votes, 31% [b]No[/b] - 687 votes, 69%
Happy Overall?: [b]Yes[/b] - 219 votes, 72% [b]No[/b] - 85 votes, 28%
Happy with Gear Progression?: [b]Yes[/b] - 132 votes, 41% [b]No[/b] - 191 votes, 59%
Will do Iron Banner 3.0?: [b]All in[/b] - 1300 votes, 19% [b]Maybe a little[/b] - 3644 votes, 54% [b]Not at all[/b] - 1791 votes, 27%
Raise Currency Limits?: [b]Agree with all [/b]- 1274 votes, 86% [b]Agree with some[/b] - 185 votes, 12% [b]None[/b] - 29 votes, 2%
Happy with Weekly Updates?: [b]Yes[/b] - 37 votes, 34% [b]No[/b] - 73 votes, 66%
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[quote]Continue Playing?: [b]Yes[/b] - 229 votes, 71% [b]No[/b] - 33 votes, 10% [b]HoW[/b] - 59, 18% Happy Overall?: [b]Yes[/b] - 219 votes, 72% [b]No[/b] - 85 votes, 28%[/quote] The sad truth is that Bungie don't give a shit about anything other than these 2 statistics. Their pockets are filled until the majority vote changes.....
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vast majority of peeps who quit this game have also quit its forums and that is the bulk of the playerbase since release. be a lot more negativity on your polls if you had access to them as well
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Destiny has the mechanics of a shooter, with rpg elements supporting it. Now, as a shooter the game is basically flawless, with excellent controls, and the greatest combat variety in the genre. Add to that excellent graphics and framerate stabilit, and the results are quite impressive. There was never any question as to whether Bungie could make a good shooter, but its easy to see how players who were expecting a richer/better rpg experience would be disappointed with it. The problems with the story, the currency systems, and the progression systems are all up the rpg alley. There is a disconnect between what we like to do, and what they make us do. As they bridge that gap, the game will slowly evolve into a much more enjoyable experience.
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Good work mate, thank you for devoting some of your time to constructive information for the forum users and for bungie.
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I don't usually go out of my way and log in and comment on the Forums, but this however, needs a like/bump. Bungie and Beej need to start taking notes if they haven't already.
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http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/89466630/0/0 Deej has listened to your opinions, and is fixing most of this stuff.
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I'm not being a hater on what you are doing, in fact, I am in agreement with your thinking process however, a majority of your polls are worded with a bias which can lead to biased results. Just saying.
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I'd underline the result that had the highest %. Its a little confusing.
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Bump. Good stuff here.
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Edited by Zoollanda: 12/21/2014 6:51:35 AMMore of an RPG than a FPS??? Baffled...
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So according to this it basically is "no" for everything except continue playing and are you happy with it.
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I'm just not going to expect some miracle. The story wasn't that much better at all but I am used to that already. Next DLC I will expect the same. Expect the same and hope for the best people.
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Don't bolden the least voted poll answer, It's confusing.
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PLEASE duplicate this post in Feedback! Great stuff, thanks!
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I'd like to see more people take these polls, so...bump.
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Top post, would be interested to know if anyone has ever had exotic engrams from levelling up vanguard? Rank 25 never had one myself
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The core game mechanics are so excellent and addicting that most people will continue to play. Absent that, it would not last as long. I personally cannot go a day without playing the game.
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Good post, Though it's sad that it's the community that has to gather this information
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I have a fair bit of experience with statistics and I'm proposing that there's a bit of a data bias in your polls. Hear me out here: The only place to find your polls is in the destiny forums. Generally people don't come on here to praise the game, they come to complain. The people who enjoy the game are either playing it or doing other things. Only the bungie fan club ever seems to come on these forums to praise bungie or attack people who point out flaws in the game. But those people are in the minority. My point is: if you post your polls and collect your data from a source where the majority of opinions will always be negative it will skew your data to the point where it's pretty much unusable.
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Bumping cause well written and informative. Agree with most of the consensus.
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I appreciate your work but I have two problems with this. 1. The sample sizes on these are grossly tiny, mostly 200-500 votes per poll or less isn't really indicative of the millions of people who play Destiny. 2. Most of these polls are basically "do you want more stuff" obviously anyone who plays the game would gladly accept more free content such as subclasses, more patrol stuff etc. Nobody would come on here and vote no for just straight up getting more content unless they're being a troll, don't think it's really fair to judge a game on what isn't there instead of what is there.