[quote]In the very near future, we will bring you a release date for the autoupdate, complete with a list of all the (visible and publicly consumable) changes. In the interim – it’s going to be “soon-ish” and will contain roughly, in order of bigness: Melee Fix Physics fix for “flying” dead bodies Fixes to make future Forge-related playlists better. Lots and lots and lots of tiny, neat fixes that will make everything better. We’ll give you a detailed list later, since some things may be more important to you than others.[/quote] <_< [quote]It should be pointed out that the majority of Halo players probably haven’t noticed anything is even wrong with melee – but at the competitive end of the spectrum, there are issues with several granular melee features – simultaneous strikes, shield depletion and so on.[/quote] <_< Wish I had all the quotes from the multiple H2 changes updates. Most all of H3's sound bout as promising. Physically [b]play test[/b] your krap better instead of rushing it out. You can tell this game was last minute rushed. If not, I'm disappointed in one of the former best developers in this industry. no holds barred, BOE

If Halo 2 is so much better, why are you playing Halo 3? Just stay on Halo 2. It still has enough players to easily find a game. And, CoD4 is much better than Halo 2. You don't have to use glitches to be able to dominate. (And yes, I use glitches in Halo 2. You have to to survive.)

"Posted by: Bobblesackin for once???????? lmao thats all we've seen in the last 3 months is MLG inspired changes that in fact alienate LARGE SECTS of lesser players... and with the BR starts in RBTB.... PICK UP A BR, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. Getting to them would be part of the tactical ideal..... no right?? but i thought you wanted more "skill" based matches. NO, you just want your little crutch right? cant "pown noobs" with anything else? Sure seems like a waste of all the other weapons on the game huh" YES! That's the problem! Instead of starting with a weapon that took skill to use, we're forced to play in maps saturated with overpowered close range weapons that are based on luck. Please don't try and tell me the H2 BR was overpowered. I bet you were the guy who would camp with the sword, weren't you? The "REAL FAN BASE" isn't a group of kids getting orgasms over the mauler, you know. Bungie had such a good thing going with Halo 2. The weapons (especially the BR) were very well balanced. The melees worked (for the most part) Most of the maps were great (Especially lockout and blood gulch) and everything just worked well. Now we have a god-awful melee system, a weak BR, maps flooded with overpowered close range guns, and maps, not nearly of the same caliber as those in the first two games. I cannot tell you how many people I have met on COD 4 who left halo because of the poorly conceived multilayer. Now, if in fact, "THE REAL FAN BASE" likes the way halo 3 turned out, that's fine, but there are many of us who miss the way Halo used to be. What Bungie could do is re release many of the old maps (they don't even have to be remakes) and more importantly, re release the old weapon sets, melee system, etc. The could give it it's own separate play list, and not even touch the H3 ones. Most of the people who left H2 left solely because H3 came out, not because they got bored of it. I'm sure more would play if they knew there was still a dedicated fan base playing it. I don't see why that would be difficult. Bungie would keep the people who enjoy Halo 3, and gain back the people who liked halo 2. The fact is, there isn't an online shooter that is as good as Halo 2. Even the new COD 4, which, is a great game, cannot measure up to Halo 2. This would prove Bungie is dedicated to it's players, and would surly silence all the naysayers who constantly insult them. [Edited on 02.02.2008 8:13 AM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] peteysweety3 and what was that about michigan? you must be an ohio state fan!!! *whispers to self* go gators...[/quote] lol, love the "whispers to self". Go Blue! Seriously, what's with the Michigan hate? Is it just Tom Brady jealousy? Which is understandable. He is so dreamy...

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] flyhippy pls explain about your MI wolverine reference, and I hope one of the new maps is lockout, not cause I like it, cause i don't, just so everyone can quit complaining.[/quote] I don't get the Wolverine reference either. Maybe Bungie is aligned with the dark side (A.K.A. Ohio State).

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Blizzard411 They had a pentathlon. It's not like you can't survive one week without it, you sure did in the Winter Break. [/quote] You're kind of making my point for me.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DDRmaster Hey, maybe I'll end up playing H3 again. xDDD [/quote] How rude. Whatev. Send Lukems my way and I'll take him down 4 some vindication of sorts Well, probably anyways. How uber1337 can he be, right?

I like the melee fix but, don't get rid of flying bodies! :(

worst update ever same crap we have been hearing, were gonna fix it but were not gonna tell you -blam!-! lame

glad to hear bout the melee, and bout the RBTB even though i dont play that -blam!- dissaponted no news bout cottonball but oh well and what was that about michigan? you must be an ohio state fan!!! *whispers to self* go gators... lol jk thanks for the update guys

No! Flying bodies FTW! Whenever I die, I start spinning around or something like that.

"But speaking of feedback, today we had a couple of relatively senior MLG players in the office to help us" i'm going to hope this is sarcasm and not scream in frustration at the idiocy of using people with no concept of balance to balance a game.

Yes u dont know bungie how dam happy i am your fixing the melee system!! much thax

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] MooSEmeA7miKe [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie It should be pointed out that the majority of Halo players probably haven’t noticed anything is even wrong with melee – but at the competitive end of the spectrum, there are issues with several granular melee features – simultaneous strikes, shield depletion and so on.[/quote]Are you stupid? xD The forums have been teeming with threads pointing this out. See this is why people hate MLG players, it seems the only reason you are fixing the melee is to please them. What a joke.[/quote] Actually are you stupid? Do you really thik that the average Halo player posts on the Halo 3 forums? The answer is a resounding no. The forums are only comprised of a handful of ubber-nerds who needlessly complain. (yes I realize I am on the forum making me one of you) Millions of people own Halo, Thousands of people post on the forums. That would mean that your average player does not post on the forums. You fail

quote][b]Posted by:[/b] randy wrecks [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bobblesackin [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] randy wrecks [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Bobblesackin for once???????? lmao thats all we've seen in the last 3 months is MLG inspired changes that in fact alienate LARGE SECTS of lesser players... and with the BR starts in RBTB.... PICK UP A BR, THEY ARE EVERYWHERE. Getting to them would be part of the tactical ideal..... no right?? but i thought you wanted more "skill" based matches. NO, you just want your little crutch right? cant "pown noobs" with anything else? Sure seems like a waste of all the other weapons on the game huh[/quote] You don't even know what you're talking about. Just stop posting. [/quote] but dont I? sorry you know that its true and also sorry you had to post basically nothing and btw... ill do whatever i please. hope to see you in MM soon buddy[/quote] I lacked a response because I would rather avoid an idiotic response to my written out response. I figured I'd save myself a minute, and do the better thing and ignore your complete ignorance. And yeah, If I were you, I would never bring up matchmaking, simply because it sounds idiotic. Want to know what I'm talking about? [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=RanDy%20wREckS]My Stats[/url] [url=http://www.bungie.net/stats/Halo3/CareerStats.aspx?player=BoBBlesackin]Yours[/url] I get up to a 45 in Double Team in under 30 games, whilst you play 2,000 games and you can't even get a 35. You [i]really[/i] don't know what you're talking about, kid. Stop trying to give yourself any kudos, because you're far from deserving. Not one person has agree'd with you, and you haven't even proven one good point. All your doing is looking for things to degrade MLG for, and using the same exact argument that every other anti-MLG kid has used. [i]"JUST PICK UP A BR MLG NOOBS!!!!"[/i] You're just trying to find an excuse to make a compensation for as to why MLG players are seen as better than players of your sort. I don't hope to see you in MM soon, buddy. It'd be a waste of my time. [/quote] as far as rankings go ill say this. The one HUGE flaw in the true skill ranking is making it easy for ppl to rank up that fast right out of the box. Its this simple, more weight is given to those who are new then to those which have exp. Anyone that has created a new account and started to play with someone else and win consistently can attest to this. Sometimes it seems like you freeze altogether. I have won 8/10 consistently with my friend "Nbread" in doubles. He moved from a 6-25 in the time it took me to move from an 11 to a 15. So in short EXP can become a handicap? you ask bungie idk Yet i took the high road and DID NOT create another account unlike most who "freeze" As far as my rank, i never said i was the greatest, but i promise i am much better now, then i was when me and my girlfriend began playing ranked together. So to you i say this... this wasn't about you and my friend (and save the personal attacks), this was about fundamental changes to this game that caters to a small sect of gamers oh yea... and i DO look forward to seeing you in doubles someday :) [Edited on 02.02.2008 6:01 AM PST]

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!You cant Fix the FLYING DEAD BODIES!!!!!!!!

"After they left, we participated in a test of something quite amazing and unlike anything we’ve ever done before. That test was a glorious success. I wish I could tell you about it, but that’s for the distant future…" wtf kinda bs is that?.......... Frankie.......that has gotta be one of the least subtle teases ever and now i gotta go see a guy about some mini spy-robots do u know how much those things cost?!?!?!?! with the economy the way it is and all?!?!?!?! speaking of which...i just saw a cnn report about how alot of vendors and companies are dropping prices to help with the hard financial times...how about a free Heroic Map Pack? this would help out those who dont "wipe their ass with ten dollarz" (MC 'n Arby reference) get a little practice before the new ones drop dont worry about me cause i am Bill Gates rich..so if u need a patron for ur Mister Cheef or a MLG sponsor...holla btw....a Michigan fan never goes to hell when she dies! CAUSE SHE'S ALREADY THERE WHEN ALIVE

yeah ahh i keep hearing new maps i have the other 3 so far very nice but still... could u possibley put the old maps on? like the sick 1s from halo 2? that wud be awesome cause some of those maps wer sick and i miss them... XD thanks

Yay.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TxV Aureole I don't understand why everyone's complaining about Purple Reign being held back. Did you not see the 6 or so subtle hints within the Update? [b][u]The replacement for Purple Reign IS Lockout.[/u][/b] See [url=http://www.gamingrepublic.org/index.php?showtopic=1058]here[/url].[/quote]That's actually pretty educated guess, I really do hope it's Lockout because it would seem that Halo 3 needs a good competitive asymmetrical map. But yeah, I'd actually have rather seen Purple Reign more than Lockout because so far in Halo 3 there has yet to be an arena styled map and they are my favorite due to their versatility. [Edited on 02.02.2008 4:43 AM PST]

-[i]edited fur truthz[/i]- [Edited on 02.02.2008 4:42 AM PST]

I don't understand why everyone's complaining about Purple Reign being held back. Did you not see the 6 or so subtle hints within the Update? [b][u]The replacement for Purple Reign IS Lockout.[/u][/b] See [url=http://www.gamingrepublic.org/index.php?showtopic=1058]here[/url].

Well to tell the truth i am but up most Disappointed. Yes sir indeed i am and this is not because the updates have taken so long to come out. no not that its that you have decided not to give us details on the new DLC. A picture? can we have one picture? i know you guys work hard making the best fighting environments you can but i would love to see some progression =) and i really do look forward to what your going to throw at us but if one is a new forge map Please increase the budget! more items bonus ;)

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Frankie It should be pointed out that the majority of Halo players probably haven’t noticed anything is even wrong with melee – but at the competitive end of the spectrum, there are issues with several granular melee features – simultaneous strikes, shield depletion and so on.[/quote]Are you stupid? xD The forums have been teeming with threads pointing this out. See this is why people hate MLG players, it seems the only reason you are fixing the melee is to please them. What a joke.

Nice update great to here there’s a melee fix on the way, tbh though I haven’t really been affected by it. Looking forward to seeing what “Moonlight Sonata” (sounds like a jap RPG or somethin) and the rest of new maps will look like some time soon. Why does Luke faint if he eats fatburger? is it all just to much for him, does he become overwhelmed ? oh and as for the fusion coil trick…yeah ur not the only one that tires out those sort of tactics, my mate is still clueless of it though, he’s hopeless ;) lol Cheers Frankie [Edited on 02.02.2008 3:24 AM PST]

I can has hang em high?