Ive read your post, as well as the 50 angry replies to it and honestly, im not expecting all this huge amount of content to flood at me in the beginning. To some people that saddens them and makes them think that the game isnt good enough, but personally, it doesnt really matter, and ill admit it, I am a serious fanboy, I play games to win, but I fully trust that bungie will give us an amazing game to play, and I intend on playing the crap out of it. (Btw I like the aspect of your opinion on this subject)

No... I believe they have a plan to release a maximum of 3 or 4 expansions between installments in the series, that will expand on what we get in each one. Of course, we're not going to get the Master Chief collection on day 1. We already know there is more to come, but I can understand and even share the sentiment that only one location on Earth in the first game may be silly considering the story presented in the game, and the lore surrounding it. Perhaps there will be more locations added in those expansions and we won't have to wait until Destiny 2 to revisit Earth and see something other than Old Russia. I guess we'll just see what we'll see. That other guy thinking it's a console version of WoW and each game is just going to be an expansion though... lol.

"It's gotta be a nail because all I've got is a hammer." You just keep arguing yourself in circle...and ignoring the HISTORY of the company that's involved here. That's like not taking into account the personality and the personal history of someone you are talking to before trying to figure out what they meant by something they said. What he said was not "vague". 1. When the game ships you will have one play space in each of the following locations: Earth, The Moon, Mars, Venus, and/or The Reef/Mercury. Probably the Reef. 2. Like in Old Russia in the alpha and beta. You'll start in one place in "patrol" mode...and that will allow you to reach every location within that play space. 3. As the game expands, Bungie will add more locations per planet, more missions per location, and eventually more planets and moons. 4. Like an MMO, THAT is how the game will expand over the 10 year period. Like an MMO, you will have to BUY the "sequel" (just as you had to buy the expansion packs) in order to access those new playspaces and new content. 5. You aren't going to find multiple locations on Earth on release day, because those multiple locations do not fit the narrative that Bungie is trying to tell with Destiny with this first game. The story centers around Old Russia on Earth because that is where your (and everyone else's) guardian is found. It is a major communications hub from the Golden Age allowing communication with the various colonies and other planets. As well as coordinating the Solar System's defense against The Darkness. So The City seeks to retake it...and the Fallen and Hive are fighting each other...and The City... to possess it. The story will almost certainly go from there as your Guardian seeks to thwart the planned Hive invasion of Earth (The Moon missions) and start to re-establish connection between Earth and other areas of the solar system. Old Russia isn't the "entirety of Earth". It is the only relevant location in this FIRST CHAPTER of the story. But you clearly lack the patience...and the vision...to allow the story to unfold over time...and want it all NOW!! Other locations on Earth will be added later on as they begin to play a role in the story as expansion packs and sequels get released. If you'd stop RIGIDLY thinking "FPS"...this progression would be self-evident. But since Bungie knows that---like you---many in its audience lacks that vision, and lacks that patience....they are playing it close to avoid poisoning the well before this fact reveals itself on launch day.

" "Yeah, we're calling them Destinations." and then proceeded to talk about how you will go to Earth, to Mars, to Venus, to the Moon"..that could be taken in any way..all depends on the person..i listen to that about 30 times..to me, he didn't confirm anything in that statement..he just corrected the guy. and to tell the truth "1 explorable zone" could mean anything as well, after all, in real life the earth is "1 explorable zone" isnt it?. same with the moon, Venus, mars. and so on. i dont believe that is the case with the game, that the entire planets will be open to us, just making a point. :)

Be prepared to have your hopes and dreams crushed on the 9th.

??????????????????????????? 1. Bungie has stated multiple times that this is only THE FIRST game of FOUR, PLUS addiitonal expansions....and you've already have TWO of those guarenteed, and in the pipeline. 2. Bungie has created this world with an eye to supporting the releaes of these additional materials over a TEN year period. Not to mention, also spinning off the rights for book deals and possibly even movies. Much like with Halo. 3. So Bungie isn't goint to reveal the kinds of things you are asking for, because it would ruin the long term plans they have for this STORY...and the multi-media empire they plan to build around it. 4. Whether or not this is all that will be in the game at release is INCONSEQUENTIAL. Because with each DLC and with each major release (probably every other year) you are going to things added on to this modular world they are building. So asking for "multiple places to explore on Earth" in this first release, is like asking an author to give you all the major plots twists to the story in the FIRST FREAKIN' CHAPTER of the book. ...and that is what THIS GAME IS. IT IS THE FIRST F-ING CHAPTER IN A "BOOK" (GAME) THAT WILL PLAY OUT OVER THE NEXT TEN YEARS. Now...either you're on board for that trip, or you aren't. If you are...CALM DOWN AND STOP COMPLAINING. Calm down and let these MASTER STORY-TELLERS walk you through this masterpiece at the RIGHT pace. Rather than demanding that they give it all to you at once.

It's cute that you think they're still going to be releasing content for THIS game in ten years. It's a franchise. They're releasing this game, some DLC, and then Destiny 2 will come along and we'll get the same. It's not one big game that is going to last ten years. It's a Franchise. Destiny doesn't have a subscription fee like WoW or other MMOs. There's no profit in continuously releasing content for free, or even releasing expansions for the same game each year (especially if they're only sold for $20). Hop off the hype train for a few minutes and try to think about it logically before opening your mouth next time. Your inner fanboy is showing. Also, whether or not this game has multiple places to visit on earth has nothing to do with the rest of the series. So I've asked Bungie to "reveal" nothing. If anything, I've asked them to state a simple yes or no answer so that players can put their expectations on the right track, and there won't be any disappointment on release.

Word of advice. Life advice. BEFORE you intellectually condescend to someone, and speak to them as if they were a dim-witted child, make sure you are ACTUALLY older and smarter than they are. You come off looking like less of a jackass that way. YOU are the one who doesn't "get it" here, because you are thinking TOO small. Halo "accidentally" became a multi-media empire worth billions of dollars, that all went into Microsoft's coffers. The WHOLE reason why Bungie fought for its independence from MS, was because they wanted to replicate that success---intentionally---with another IP....and KEEP the money for themselves. Destiny isn't going to be a "series" of games or a "franchise" like you are describing. Bungie plans for it to be an EMPIRE but around a SINGULAR world that is expanded in a MODULAR fashion over the next ten years. It will still BE the same game in 10 years. But it will be a MASSIVE singular world. The reason why they won't have charge subscription fees is because they plan on moving enough units so that they do not have to----and to procedurally generate much of the new content. So rather than charging your customer a monthly fee, you charge them for the expansions packs and major updates that keep expanding the world----and advancing the story-----every year. So you monetize the on-going support of the world you are creating in a way that your customer base won't resent and resist, and you keep their HUNGER to know which way the world will grow next...and which way the story will GO next..to keep them coming back and paying for the additional content as they expand that world. A marketing and financing strategy that the information you are demanding would UNDERMINE. Hence, they will NEVER give it to you that far in advance. Add to that---once this game becomes an established hit on the scale of a "Halo"---you can then make even more money by selling publishing rights to books and movie rights based on the "Destiny" Universe. Then there are toys and other licensed products as well. The same marketing model that made George Lucas rich with Star Wars...applied to the "new media" of video gaming. So I'm on no sort of "hype train". I just have enough of a business sense to understand the full breadth and scope of what Bungie is trying to pull off...and how UNGODLY rich it will make them if they manage to do it ...and right now YOU are the one who is thinking frightfully "small", and too far "inside the box" for what is Bungie is planning on unleashing here in a month. ...and if anyone can do it in the video gaming world...my money is on them. Perhaps literally, after I give it some thought....

They've already said the game will have sequels, idiot. And the sequels won't be coming to the PS3 and 360, which is why they have characters transferring back and forth between new and last-gen. They're not going to be updating this same game for the next ten years. They've never said that they would. They're building a [i][u]franchise[/u][/i]. This is a fact. This is the way the industry works. Do you even know what a franchise is? All your bullshit about them building an "empire" and whatever other crap you think they're doing is nothing but pipe-dream wishful thinking spread around by fanboys. Hell, they're not even rumors. They're fantasy ideas built from the premise of Activision supposedly planning on spending $500 million over the next ten years to build this franchise. Also, stop calling people "kids" and trying to bring age into the discussion. You have no idea how old I am, nor the other guy that you attempted to use that logical fallacy with. You have no idea what you're talking about, so you're trying to imply that myself and others are younger than you to invalidate our arguments. It doesn't work. You should take your own life advice. Maybe stick it up your ass while you're at it.

Bingo

Oh please... save yourself... don't try to read through this argument. It's literally [i]painful[/i].

Hahahaha i got though some of it. ROUGH. I give you a lot of credit for even attempting to tell this mongoloid the truth

I simply call it as I see it. When some one acts like a child-- they can't express themselves without resorting to insults and name- calling-- then I treat them like one. What you are calling "bullshit" is a pretty common practice with persistent world games. The "sequels" and expansions do not create "new" games, but create new areas within the same world to play that customers buy access to. As for the multimedia aspect Star Wars and Halo itself already blazed THAT trail... So again, nothing new or "bullshit". You are simply thinking too small and too "inside the box" compared to what Bungie has made very clear that they have planned. Clear if you simply watch what they are doing, and understand their history and why they fought so hard to free themselves from MS. But at the end of the day you can call me every name but the one my mother gave me. This is what Bungie has planned, and how those plans are going to fit together. Which is why they took such pains to allow characters to port across console generations. Because they plan for people to be able to play the same characters across the 10 year story arc they are laying the foundation for . Time will prove me right.. And your vision limited. Later.

You have no idea what Bungie has planned, and they've never said anything about what you're talking about. This is a franchise. Plain and simple. It always has been. You even admitted it when you stated in other posts that they're already planned 4 games. And then you proceed to claim that it's not a franchise? That proves that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. A franchise means a "series". Call of Duty is a franchise. Halo is a Franchise. Mass Effect is a franchise. Oh, by the way... their plan for you to play the same character means nothing. Mass Effect did the exact same thing. You simply imported your character from one game to the next. It has nothing to do with them expanding on one game for ten years. You bring nothing to the table other than your own speculation and wishful thinking, and try to state it as if it were fact. That's fanboyism. You're blinded from reality by your own hyperbole. Obviously, I won't convince you otherwise but I can ask that you simply remember this conversation when Destiny 2 is announced in a couple of years, and you realize that it's not part of the same game, but is simply the next installment in the franchise. As long as you remember this altercation, I won't have to come back and say "told you so".

Actually I do...and actually they have. ....and what they are planning is not a FPS franchise, but is more in keeping with what is done with MMO-RPGs. I'm not blinded by anything. All I've done is been willing to LISTEN to what people who work for Bungie actually have to say...and what words they used to say it...and don't ASSUME that I already know. ...and you coming back and saying "I told you so." is the least of my worries. I've been a PC gamer for 20 years. Bungie made games for PC and Mac for 10 years before Halo and Xbox. So I'm VERY familiar with the ground they've walked on....and the ground they are eyeing and planning on bringing from PC gaming to consoles.

No you don't, and no they haven't. Stop lying to yourself. And lol, you've played Marathon so you think you have some kind of insight into what the company as a whole is planning to do? Please. I've played every Bungie game since Pathways. Playing a certain company's games 20 years ago gives you no better insight into new IPs than not. Also, I love how hypocritical you are. You claim to have all of this figured out, and then sit there and state "...and don't ASSUME that I already know." All you've done is make assumptions by reading into what has been stated. You take marketing taglines like "this is the biggest game we've ever created" and turn them into confirmations of your own theories. You're the worst kind of moron... the kind that believes his own hyperbole.

http://destiny.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:T3CHNOCIDE/Exclusive_Interview_with_Harold_Ryan_-_President_of_Bungie,_Inc What are your plans for sequels? Are you already thinking about Destiny 2? "We’re not getting into the commercial model. But, for us we want Destiny to be a world which grows and evolves. We have said that the world will continue to expand and grow over time. One of the reasons why we tried to plan a broader overview of the game, is so that we can make better architectural decisions when we were setting up the engine and the pipeline; so when we decide we want to add matchmade gameplay to it, we don’t have to re-write the engine – as it stops you and costs a lot of money. So to the best of our ability, we have set up a pipeline which we think is going let us evolve the engine and evolve the game over time, so that we can keep it fresh and new." I repeat: " BUT FOR US WE WANT DESTINY TO BE A WORLD THAT GROWS AND EVOLVES. We have said that the world will continue to expand and grow over time.....So to the best of our ability we have set up a pipeline which we think is going to let us evolve the engine and evolve the game over time so that we keep it fresh and new." Note he said "GAME".....not "GAMES".

*facepalm* He states they're not ready to talk specifics on sequels, and instead chooses to discuss their plans for supporting Destiny post-release. And you consider that confirmation that they're going to just expand on one game for ten years. A game that is available on last-gen consoles which likely won't have servers in ten years anyway. lol ok... Oh, but you don't ASSUME anything! *rolleyes*

Roll away. Small minds always do.

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