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8/12/2012 8:51:38 PM
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So after finishing Glasslands, what do you think of Halsey?

Personally I think people just need to step the heck back and acknowledge that her project is what won the freaking war for humanity. Vaz, Osman, Parangotsky, and even Naomi are so damn quick to judge when they admit that the Spartan II program is the reason why they're all alive. Heck, Fred even admits that he doesn't regret anything because as a colony kid he would have been glassed anyway. True, Halsey was a cold, calculating -blam!-, and she did break the law. But she saved lives, billions of lives. I think that's why people are so angry. Because her cold calculation that the lives of 70 kids and their families were traded for all of humanity. She still deserved to get pwnt by Lucy though. Thoughts? [Edited on 08.12.2012 12:51 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Cmdr DaeFaron [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fin5434p My main issue is when she uses her books to advance her own political or personal views, and her perchant for rants. Particularly *misaimed* rants, like demonising Halsey and comparing her to mengele. Her rants in SW were all from 'Mando' characters and directed primarily at the jedi. This would be fine if it was part of a bigger plot point, or character development, but it isn't: every other character just nods and goes along with the 'obvious wisdom' of her mouthpiece character. [b]My main problem with her writing is it's very opinionated, and she writes in a way that presumes the reader agrees with her, opposing views are not presented and no one really questions the viewpoint she puts forward, even if it would be in character to do so.[/b] The S IIs that were on onyx would have defended Halsey come hell or high water,we know this from previous work, they are all aware of the details of the Spartan programme. Do they? Nah. [/quote] Kinda curious about what she said concerning Jedi now. :P And bolded point is pretty much what I've been saying. We aren't given much of a viewpoint about Halsey's good side. We aren't given ANY viewpoint or knowledge about the elites who want peace because they respect humanity.[/quote] From the limited knowledge i have she gave a ridiculously low number for the amount of stormtroopers defending a planet. That is the extent of my star wars knowledge with her though obviously Fin could elaborate far more on that than i can. Which is my issue in that department, If some people said halsey was good and others said she was bad then it would balance out. The book doesn't offer that nor does it give the uneducated reader a chance to pick their side of the moral fence through the details that should have been explained in the novel. Such as the founding and history of the spartan project as well as pointing out the differences between the SII and SIII program. It would have been a far better read in that case and would have sparked better discussions on why people have their views on halsey. The Same for the elites we only see one side of the fence and that makes us think it is the [b]only[/b] side of the fence. With bungie it seemed to be going in the direction that the elites would be able to tolerate us if not start a new covenant [b]with[/b] us. That idea is completely absent in Glasslands as it seems the elites either A) want to wipe us out quickly or B) want to go separate ways until the can wipe us out. Then there are statements like this; [quote]What was he doing worrying about the humans? They were no more than an infestation, backward vermin, and could be eradicated.[/quote] [quote]"We might have different priorities, Jul, but I do agree with you. There's no lasting peace to be made with humans. We've killed too many of them. This is just a lull in the war. It might be weeks or years or even centuries, but it'll never be truly over."[/quote] [quote]"They'll be back," he said, running a polishing cloth over his armor for the tenth time that morning. "They're like the Flood. They expand to fill every available space. They devour everything in their path. Except they can plan and wait, and persuade our more gullible brothers with clever argument, which makes them even more dangerous."[/quote] [quote]"Am I the only one who can see that the humans are just catching their breath? They won't forget, and they won't forgive. They certainly won't stop their colonization."[/quote] I feel like the last to quotes blatantly show karen's disregard for the halo lore not to mention how childish the elites now are. The Elites have been spacefaring for more than 3,000 years meaning they should have [b]thousands[/b] of planets seeing as the UNSC had 800 planets and or systems under their belt on a lower technological tier. So for the Elites to compare the to the flood (which made my jaw drop the first round) was just ridiculous even more so since it is the covenant that suck up all the resources of a planet and leave it barren, like the flood. -_- You then have the comments about humans never forgiving/forgetting and that it is better off to just go ahead and wipe them out. Which isn't consistent with the elites being an "honorable race" seeing as they should be sucking up to humanity for wrongly butchering billions for no reason. Instead Glasslands has the elites blaming the humans for the current crisis they are in more so than the san shyumm with the idea of "if the humans weren't so widespread we would have defeated them sooner and wouldn't be in this mess". Sadly halo doesn't seem to be the universe that will make an idea stick with all members of a race. So in a sense it isn't wrong that we have this viewpoint of elites since it does show that not all elites hold the standard we are used to. But at the same time it would have been nice to acknowledge the elites that want an actual [b]truce[/b] and relationship with the humans instead of this "there is a war but nobody is firing" nonsense. [Edited on 08.22.2012 6:15 PM PDT]

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