Microsoft did not make Bungie and Bungie also did not make the original Xbox... They entered a mutually beneficial relationship where Microsoft used it's gigantic PR and marketing arm to put Bungie on the map, and Bungie in turn gave them the one killer app. the original Xbox truly needed. No one was being used by anyone. They each knew what they were getting themselves into. At the same time though most of Bungie's fans now come from Halo... This means the majority of us learned about Bungie through the Xbox and Halo. I, like many others, don't want Bungie to develop games for Sony or Nintendo! I understand what the Mac users went through after MYTH and I know about Oni for the PS2, but it still pains me to imagine Bungie ever developing games for those damn dirty Sony apes! I know without Bungie the Xbox wouldn't have had Halo but without Microsoft, Bungie wouldn't have had the recognition. Nobody has been as influential to Bungie's success as the fans who believed in the original Xbox. Those fans I can assure you are most definitely not the old Mac guard, nor even the PC fans from Myth, or to even mention the Oni PS2 fans... Most PC fanatics hate the consoles. That fact remains true to this day. Go into any website that reviews games and allows their users to create "User Reviews" and see who exactly it is that is giving Halo 3 bad reviews. I can most assure most of you that it isn't even Sony or Nintendo fans... Most of the user reviews say something to likes of "HALO 3 SUCKS! ITS NOT EVEN A GOOD FPS! WAIT FOR CRYSIS YOU STUPID CRETINS!". The Sony loyalists are still grasping for anything that could possibly be a [b]"Halo killer"[/b]. You all know it, stupid crap like [b]Killzone[/b] (lol), [b]Resistance: Fall of Man[/b] (lmao), [b]Haze[/b] (roflmao), or from the makers of the original CRAP here comes CRAP 2.0 with twice as much [i]pre-rendered[/i] CRAP as the first! [b]Killzone 2[/b] (dies of laughter). As for Nintendo, I really don't have a beef with Nintendo apart from their retarded mission statement [b]"We are more innovative than anyone else because we say so but we'll still make mini-game compilations aimed at the lowest common denominator of the gaming community. You know those that still think video games are toys and can never aspire to be a real art-form with meaningful stories and beautiful music. Nah, we'll aim for Grandma and Grandpa who'll have fun waving around our little stick and laugh at stupid crap with bright colors and loud sounds like children."[/b] Most of us Bungie fans that exist today do not come from their old games. We come from Halo which came from the Xbox because we believed in Microsoft who created a good console... As for the rest pf you who might be surprised as to why were is so much console hate. It's because the vast overwhelming majority of us come from the original Xbox. This hits home for alot of us and we just want to make sure that our invested time in Bungie and Microsoft's Xbox doesn't go to waste. It's the Halo fans who put Bungie on the map nobody else... specially not those Oni fans... (SONY SUCKS!) [Edited on 10.06.2007 12:43 PM PDT]