Wow, Lol. Where I work now, we make custom circuit boards all the way from bare fiberglass. The whole production process takes several days before we ship them off to the customer. That's a pretty forking serious hobby, 'Chief! *salutes* Seriously, though... That's what I meant by "from scratch", I'm sorry. I'm just used to thinking that way 'cause that's what I do. I kinda forgot that what most people mean by from scratch is just buying components, cables and stuff that're already manufactured and then assembling and setting up. (usually Winblows, lol, which really isn't setting anything up...) [Edited on 7/5/2004 1:18:48 PM]