[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Surge It's also true that these people probably should have had the common sense to read the rules when they were presented to them...many times.[/quote] It's the "many times" part that leaves me with little sympathy for the little, ahem, "blighters". If you screw up once or twice getting to know your way around, that's one thing. (Heck, we've [i]all[/i] fouled up a couple of times.) When the "foul ups" are [i]consistant[/i] and [i]frequent[/i], and persist after repeated correction, the hammer needs to fall. Perhaps a gentle tap at first (1 day), but if Our Hero doesn't shape up soon afterwards the overhand swing (7 day) and dual-wielded flaming hammers (perma) need to come out. I know it's a fine line to walk for the mods, but I'd rather have one or two "unnecessary" week-bans fired off than have a whole lot of fans alienated by the misbehaviour of a few. -- Steve is no Solomon, or Alexander, to figure out this knot however.