Well lets not gat any argurments in here, we're all Halo players that come together on a daily basis to disscuss issues and excitement, so I think it's safe to say that 99% of everyone who postes on these forums, are at the top of the hard-core Halo lovers list, and probably some of the best Halo players out there. I agree with you that we're all so excited about Halo2 that words cannot describe it. I definetly am, and I hope I retain this excitement for the next five or so months. I personally am countign on Halo 2 to be the most sold ever, it ahs to beat Super Mario Bros. (NES) with 40 Million units sold, but I think we can pull it off. As for this Killzone game, what the hell is it? I went to the website and all they had was this lame trailer teaser. If this is SOny's answer to Halo 2, I think they're screwed. XD