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10/7/2004 6:37:14 AM
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New Members And "Lurking"
With the increasing number of new members to the forums these days with the release of Halo 2 growing ever so closer, a lot of people are posting their first post without knowing anything about the forums they are posting in. This is a good time for people with some experience with the forums to step up and give new people a hand.
I know that it can get quite annoying when you see the tenth new person of the day posting a post in the wrong forums, or asking a question that has been asked a dozen times before, but making them feel welcome is going to help us a lot more than flaming them. Not that I've really seen many people running around screaming bloody murder at every new member on the boards and calling them all n00bs, and excuse my French, but helping all of the new members out will make everyone a lot happier. Hopefully after the launch of Halo 2 we will see the amount of locked threads go down (wouldn't that be nice).
On another note, I wanted to thank the members that have been posting helpful advice already for the newer members. It's making everyones time in the forums a lot better.
For new members -
Now, if you are new to forums altogether look around a bit before you post. This term is called “lurking” and it helps you get a feel for the forums you will be posting in. I personally spent over a month just reading around the Bungie.net forums, not posting at all, just getting to know the people and how the place was run.
If your so eager to post that you just can't wait,[url=http://bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=7114] here [/url] you can find a basic outline of what posts go where. Posting in the right forums will save you, and the moderators, a lot of hassle. Just use common sense when posting. Try to correct all typos that you catch and use proper grammar, and show respect to others posting ^^. These and other rules can also be found in the link above, click that for more details.
Anyways I just wanted to post this to help everyone deal with the rush of new posters that we've had, and will probably continue to have, for the next couple months.
Thanks for reading, I hope I've helped some.
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dude, how hard is it for ppl to post...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ocelot dude, how hard is it for ppl to post... [/quote] That's not the point. In fact, that's kind of the problem. You has some really good advice, Nosferatu. Advice that is unfortunately rather useless. The problem is that new members rarely read the guidelines and rules laid out for them from the outset, and I highly doubt they will be heading straight here to check out a "newbie guide." I doubt there's really much we can do other than ride it out and help out as much as we can. I can't hold it against you for trying though.
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Hmm... Surge is correct. New members won't come here. I didn't.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] SurgeK [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Ocelot dude, how hard is it for ppl to post... [/quote] That's not the point. In fact, that's kind of the problem. You has some really good advice, Nosferatu. Advice that is unfortunately rather useless. The problem is that new members rarely read the guidelines and rules laid out for them from the outset, and I highly doubt they will be heading straight here to check out a "newbie guide." I doubt there's really much we can do other than ride it out and help out as much as we can. I can't hold it against you for trying though.[/quote] Hell, new members(and some older ones, too) don't even listen to the mods, so why do you think that they would take the advice of another regular member?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Stalin the 31st Hmm... Surge is correct. New members won't come here. I didn't.[/quote] I did. Does that make me crazy? Ahem... Anyway, I have to agree that new victims^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmembers will rarely if ever read this. --Sgt. Smith wonders what the B.net population is at now.
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Still if even some new members do read it it might help us out some >< Anything to get things more organized around here.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nosferatu_Soldie Still if even some new members do read it it might help us out some >< Anything to get things more organized around here.[/quote] Too true. I was just pointing out that all the morons just don't care about rules or responsibilities.
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Soldiers, how's it hangin? been a little pre-occupied lately, but never-the-less, to answer many questions i've been recieving, yes, Diesel's Roughnecks is still live as ever and needs new members, and for those who havent heard of us, we're a halo 2 clan with a set ranking system and rules of engagement, we're finished setting up our homepage, so feel free to check it out and join, and read up on the ranking system and how it works, the link is http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/fanclubdieselsroughnecks/GroupHome.aspx , and if for some reason that doesn't work then copy and cut it into ur address bar or just search for Diesel's Roughnecks, and remember if u wanna survive halo 2 online, then u'd better join up with us, everyone else is just spectators. sign up marines! Gen. Pred, Diesel
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] diesel 06 Soldiers, how's it hangin? been a little pre-occupied lately, but never-the-less, to answer many questions i've been recieving, yes, Diesel's Roughnecks is still live as ever and needs new members, and for those who havent heard of us, we're a halo 2 clan with a set ranking system and rules of engagement, we're finished setting up our homepage, so feel free to check it out and join, and read up on the ranking system and how it works, the link is http://www.bungie.net/fanclub/fanclubdieselsroughnecks/GroupHome.aspx , and if for some reason that doesn't work then copy and cut it into ur address bar or just search for Diesel's Roughnecks, and remember if u wanna survive halo 2 online, then u'd better join up with us, everyone else is just spectators. sign up marines! Gen. Pred, Diesel[/quote] Does "gen" stand for generic posting? Because everywhere I turn, you've pasted this nonsense into tons of topics. For somone with a join date going back as far as yours does, you should definitely know better.
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Hey Diesel... try and not spam and waste time in a threda pretty much dedicated to stopping that kind of thing... Tristan ;-)
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara of Sand Hey Diesel... try and not spam and waste time in a threda pretty much dedicated to stopping that kind of thing... Tristan ;-)[/quote] Alas, but there shall always be fools. I have my own theory on how to teach the new members. Unfortunately, It would probably get me banned... I've done all that I can besides advising new members, and guiding people to the correct forums. Now, that's all that all of us can really do.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara of Sand Hey Diesel... try and not spam and waste time in a threda pretty much dedicated to stopping that kind of thing... Tristan ;-)[/quote] Alas, but there shall always be fools. I have my own theory on how to teach the new members. Unfortunately, It would probably get me banned... I've done all that I can besides advising new members, and guiding people to the correct forums. Now, that's all that all of us can really do.[/quote] The problem with this lugwrench is that he's not reading (and doesn't care one whit about) the topics that he's pasting his ads into. Plus he is not likely to come back and read the replies either. So anything that we say here is wasted breath. Personally, I would love to see the numbnut blacklisted and his group disbanded... but that's just me speaking in anger. Unfortunately it's the same thing (drive-by mass copy and paste postings) that pissed me (and others) off about some of the more "zealous" contributors to the Halo Movie thread.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Recon Number 54 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Gaara of Sand Hey Diesel... try and not spam and waste time in a threda pretty much dedicated to stopping that kind of thing... Tristan ;-)[/quote] Alas, but there shall always be fools. I have my own theory on how to teach the new members. Unfortunately, It would probably get me banned... I've done all that I can besides advising new members, and guiding people to the correct forums. Now, that's all that all of us can really do.[/quote] The problem with this lugwrench is that he's not reading (and doesn't care one whit about) the topics that he's pasting his ads into. Plus he is not likely to come back and read the replies either. So anything that we say here is wasted breath. Personally, I would love to see the numbnut blacklisted and his group disbanded... but that's just me speaking in anger. Unfortunately it's the same thing (drive-by mass copy and paste postings) that pissed me (and others) off about some of the more "zealous" contributors to the Halo Movie thread.[/quote] Wow, I've never seen you so angry Recon. Then again, I never did partake (partook?) in the Halo movie thread.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato Wow, I've never seen you so angry Recon. Then again, I never did partake (partook?) in the Halo movie thread.[/quote] I never had a problem with the subject or the goal of the Movie Topic. It's when people resort to this nonsense, I really get upset. I mean, people complain about spam? That is real spam. Just like somone who mass-mails millions in the hope that 0.001% of the people will stupidly click. This moron uses what he thinks is a "clever" shotgun approach to serve his own ends. You know me, I don't call people names and the single and only time I've hit the "blam" filter was when I was using the NATO designation for the MIG-15 to refer to the actual NATO designation for the MIG-15. I try to add levity and humor into uncivil exchanges, but what really gets me about this guys is he is too LAZY to talk or work. Going into dozens of threads, and pressing CRTL-V before moving onto the next one is the absolute height of ignorance to me. Even people flaming each other tend to read what the other person is saying at them, even if it is to know it's now their turn to flame some more.
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Well I'm going to report him for spamming, if anyone else wants to...
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Nosferatu_Soldie Well I'm going to report him for spamming, if anyone else wants to...[/quote] I can't believe I didn't think of that. Very, very good idea, although it's likely the mods already know.
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Heh... I always report people if they are breaking the rules. I'm like a mini-mod ^^.
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Considering that the new people are mostly around the age of 14, they could care less about rules and FAQS.
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That's not exactly a fair statement -- I said something similar to that about 16 year olds a few months ago -- But here you are, proving that statement wrong. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Josher 35 Considering that the new people are mostly around the age of 14, they could care less about rules and FAQS. [/quote] People are extremely individual when it comes to maturity and responsibility. The fact of the matter is -- there are just as many 20 year olds that pay no attention either.
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15 year olds on these forums make me cry. They make me feel smart and intelligent which shows you what is wrong with the forums ;) Also I never read FAQ's or guidelines on any forums. I'm just not an idiot. It takes 2 seconds to see what belongs in what forum, and I know the basics. "Dont flame, dont spam" etc.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Halo53 15 year olds on these forums make me cry. They make me feel smart and intelligent which shows you what is wrong with the forums ;) Also I never read FAQ's or guidelines on any forums. I'm just not an idiot. It takes 2 seconds to see what belongs in what forum, and I know the basics. "Dont flame, dont spam" etc.[/quote] Not all 15 year-olds are ignorant morons, you shouldn't generalize them all because a few of them have done some stupid things. I took the time to look around before I first posted, I even used the search feature back when it was still around. [Edited on 10/9/2004 11:36:19 AM]
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There is no way to stop ignorant posters. It's like telling a starfish to have a brain, or shooting a bird for eating. It's who some of these people are, they cannot change themselves, they're just plain lazy, they know it, and sadly, they don't give a rat's ass. We're on a very large forum, and out of those thousands of members, there are going to be some bad apples, there's nothing we can do about that. The thing is, most of the time the bad members post three or four times as much as a regular member, so it's as if the problem multiplies. You only need a couple of them to completely drag down the a forum. As I see it, there is no answer to the lazy/ignorant member problem. Nothing you do has any effect on them because they don't care about anyone but themselves. So, my advice to all of you is to learn to adapt to them, it doesn't really matter how you deal with them (as long as you don't drop down to their level), just find a way of doing so. If they won't change, maybe we are the ones that need to change.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GameJunkieJim That's not exactly a fair statement -- I said something similar to that about 16 year olds a few months ago -- But here you are, proving that statement wrong. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Josher 35 Considering that the new people are mostly around the age of 14, they could care less about rules and FAQS. [/quote] People are extremely individual when it comes to maturity and responsibility. The fact of the matter is -- there are just as many 20 year olds that pay no attention either.[/quote] Here, use me as an example. I'm fifteen. What's your ruling?
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GameJunkieJim That's not exactly a fair statement -- I said something similar to that about 16 year olds a few months ago -- But here you are, proving that statement wrong. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Josher 35 Considering that the new people are mostly around the age of 14, they could care less about rules and FAQS. [/quote] People are extremely individual when it comes to maturity and responsibility. The fact of the matter is -- there are just as many 20 year olds that pay no attention either.[/quote] Here, use me as an example. I'm fifteen. What's your ruling?[/quote] Nice. You act very mature for your age gato. Good going ^^
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] un gato [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] GameJunkieJim That's not exactly a fair statement -- I said something similar to that about 16 year olds a few months ago -- But here you are, proving that statement wrong. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Josher 35 Considering that the new people are mostly around the age of 14, they could care less about rules and FAQS. [/quote] People are extremely individual when it comes to maturity and responsibility. The fact of the matter is -- there are just as many 20 year olds that pay no attention either.[/quote] Here, use me as an example. I'm fifteen. What's your ruling?[/quote] Lots of potential, but a little inexperienced. Of course, time mends all things.
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Age isn't a determining factor with following rules and guidelines, it's more a part of their character and maturity. I myself am only 16, but I'd say I follow the rules more/better than about 80% of the people on here, and that isn't just because they're younger than me.... TRistan ;-)
