[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Miz KillZone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Marinade [/quote] Yes, but most "street fights" or better example school fights are the same in that sense. They know what they're getting themselves into and they've obviously agreed to fight. I do realize getting jumped/attacked is different however. I don't know I was always under the impression that fights are illegal no matter the circumstances, unless it's MMA or something revolved around fighting. I thought the fights in the NHL were real fights and not so much a part of the sport itself, am I wrong?[/quote] Where I live fights aren't considered illegal if both participants are willing. Fights are considered part of hockey by the NHL, so it is part of the game when playing at that level. If you were playing in some of the European leagues where they aren't considered part of the game then it would be different.[/quote] I don't think you're getting what "part of the game" means. Let's take basketball for example. In basketball, if you travel, you are penalized. Traveling happens from time to time and the ref blows his whistle and that person is penalized. Therefore traveling isn't a part of the game of basketball even though there is a rule against it. Now back to hockey. Yes, fighting happens in the game of hockey and always has happened and probably always will happen. That being said you're penalized for it, meaning you're not supposed to do it. Thus, it isn't a part of the game. The same way traveling happens in basketball, but it's not a part of the game. Point being, fighting in hockey shouldn't be a reason for the sport being "more manly" or better than another sport when it really isn't supposed to be a part of the game to begin with because there is a penalty against it. The mere fact that there is a penalty against fighting means its not a part of the game. It doesn't matter whether or not it's a part of the "culture" because there is still a penalty against it. [Edited on 01.05.2013 11:02 PM PST]