[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 Batman is exactly as skilled and strong as it takes to barely defeat whoever he is fighting at the time. That's how comics work. If he were fighting a more realistic batman without crazy bull-blam!- like being able to bench a half-ton without being a world class body builder, or being fast enough to dodge bullets, all while having no superpowers, Chief would win. [/quote] Good point. Comic books are kind of ridiculous. They aren't based in any sort of feasible reality. Genetically augmented super soldiers from 500 years in the future at least feels believable. But as Darthbill pointed out, a regular human who can bench half a ton... ya.[/quote] People can lift half a ton in real life, too. Obviously there's only a [i]very[/i] small amount of those people, but it can be done.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Actually, I want to make a point about the whole brutes meleeing MC to death. That's a video game- there has to be a way he can die. It makes me wonder, how can Batman die in the Arkham games? I've never played them, but someone who has, can you back me up here? See what I'm getting at?[/quote] Well in the arkham games, you die both being beaten up heavily or being shot to death. And as for the rest of your post you're right. There are many variables, many different things which could happen.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 Batman is exactly as skilled and strong as it takes to barely defeat whoever he is fighting at the time. That's how comics work. If he were fighting a more realistic batman without crazy bull-blam!- like being able to bench a half-ton without being a world class body builder, or being fast enough to dodge bullets, all while having no superpowers, Chief would win. [/quote] World-class bodybuilder? Batman makes them look like wussies. Hell, he makes everybody in the Olympics look like wussies. It's still canon that he can lift half a ton and dodge bullets.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Darthbill99 Batman is exactly as skilled and strong as it takes to barely defeat whoever he is fighting at the time. That's how comics work. If he were fighting a more realistic batman without crazy bull-blam!- like being able to bench a half-ton without being a world class body builder, or being fast enough to dodge bullets, all while having no superpowers, Chief would win. [/quote] Good point. Comic books are kind of ridiculous. They aren't based in any sort of feasible reality. Genetically augmented super soldiers from 500 years in the future at least feels believable. But as Darthbill pointed out, a regular human who can bench half a ton... ya.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence. His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i]. Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything. All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible. Like I said, no matter how much training Batman has, the Chief has that to plus a host of physical and mental hacks. Anything Batman can do, Chief could do better.[/quote] Not to mention bats got his spine broken easily by a beefy guy with breathing problems.[/quote] He got his spine broken by a guy on super-steroids (which make him at least as strong as Master Chief) who is also a genius (though not a billionaire playboy philanthropist) on par with Batman himself.

Batman is exactly as skilled and strong as it takes to barely defeat whoever he is fighting at the time. That's how comics work. If he were fighting a more realistic batman without crazy bull-blam!- like being able to bench a half-ton without being a world class body builder, or being fast enough to dodge bullets, all while having no superpowers, Chief would win.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent Batman is a human civilian, so chief would hardly attack him. Chief is a soldier, not a murderer or a criminal and Batman wouldn't just attack a man. That said, Batman does NOT kill, its core to his character and I doubt he'd be able to get through MC's armour anyway. (Being from the distant space future and all.) Chief has no such restrictions, is stronger, smarter, better equipped and really lucky. Bats really should stick with the joker.[/quote] When will people learn [i]Batman's refusal to kill is NOT a disadvantage for him?![/i] And Halo is not DC's future. The Batmobile is more advanced than anything John's used anyway. He is stronger, but not nearly as smart or as well equipped, and luck is never a factor in vs debates.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fat Man 3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence.[/quote] Well, in the comics Batman can lift about 1200 lbs, and has armour made to tank Bane's punches, who is arguably as strong as MC[/quote] OK. I don't think MC would have too much trouble lifting that; I think it's fair to say they'd be more or less even on that point. [quote][quote] His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i].[/quote] If a brute can take down his shields and kill him with meleeing why can't Batman?[/quote] Fair point. [quote][quote] Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything.[/quote] Batman has encountered and outsmarted many AI smarter than Cortana. Like brainiac.[/quote] I envision Cortana would be used more as a tactical aide- boosting reflexes, predicting movements. At the end of the day, she's going to help Chief in the ways Batman just couldn't help. [quote][quote] All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible.[/quote] Batman has taken a punch of Darkseid, someone who has beaten up Superman on several occasions, and lived.[/quote] OK, so Batman could take a punch from MC. But I hope you're not going to make me prove that MC could also take a punch from Batman and live. I think it's reasonable to assume (and believe me, not knowing Batman lore that well I feel I'm making a [i]huge[/i] concession here, for the sake of the argument) that physically they're more or less evenly matched. So if they fight with everything they'd normally have access to, what do we get? I don't know where to go from here, there are so many variables. If they went tow-to-toe physically, it seems like a crap shoot. Add weapons in to it... I feel like Batman is gonna get shot eventually. I mean MC would be able to dodge anything Batman tries, MC wouldn't have to let Batman get within ten feet of him if he didn't want him to what with his speed. So he can keep shooting until he finally gets it. I don't know. I don't know enough about Batman. Actually, I want to make a point about the whole brutes meleeing MC to death. That's a video game- there has to be a way he can die. It makes me wonder, how can Batman die in the Arkham games? I've never played them, but someone who has, can you back me up here? See what I'm getting at? [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:37 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle I quit.[/quote] "No good reasoning" Well, you haven't even tried with my most recent post.

"LOOL MASTER CHEF IS INVICIBLE BECUZ HE HAZ A DED A EYE AND I THINK BATMAN SUX BECUZ HE HAZ NO OGMENTATIONS LIEK MASTER CHEF AND I THINK BATMAN IS NOT SMART AND MASTER CHEF HAS A POWER PUNCH THAT GIVES BATMAN A BIG BOO BOO AND CHEF WINS BECUZ I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT BATMAN" [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:28 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fat Man 3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence.[/quote] Well, in the comics Batman can lift about 1200 lbs, and has armour made to tank Bane's punches, who is arguably as strong as MC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i].[/quote] If a brute can take down his shields and kill him with meleeing why can't Batman? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything.[/quote] Batman has encountered and outsmarted many AI smarter than Cortana. Like brainiac. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible.[/quote] Batman has taken a punch of Darkseid, someone who has beaten up Superman on several occasions, and lived.[/quote] now this is just getting stupid. It's no good reasoning with you Robins... I quit.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fat Man 3000[/quote]I kinda skimmed over the guys post, so this guys gives a more thorough explanation and actually answers the questions. [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:27 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence. His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i]. Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything. All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible. Like I said, no matter how much training Batman has, the Chief has that to plus a host of physical and mental hacks. Anything Batman can do, Chief could do better.[/quote]In hand to hand combat with absolutely no gadgets(this is including chief's suit as well as Batman's) Batman would probably win. This is a bit debatable. With no gadgets BUT the suits, Chief would probably when, though I know Batman is an incredibly skilled fighter. I have a feeling the chief would win this one though. With no gadgets but Batman has the suit he used to beat the -blam!- out of Superman in the Dark Knight Returns, Batman would win. With all of their gadgets but it isn't hand to hand combat and Batman has time to plan out his strategy as well as Master chief, Batman would win. In most situation Batman would win, the only time Chief stands a chance is somewhat in unarmed combat face to face and Regular Batman armor fighting fully armored Chief. Holy -blam!- I need to find something else to do with my time, I like Batman way too much.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence.[/quote] Well, in the comics Batman can lift about 1200 lbs, and has armour made to tank Bane's punches, who is arguably as strong as MC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i].[/quote] If a brute can take down his shields and kill him with meleeing why can't Batman? [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything.[/quote] Batman has encountered and outsmarted many AI smarter than Cortana. Like brainiac. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible.[/quote] Batman has taken a punch of Darkseid, someone who has beaten up Superman on several occasions, and lived.

a more fair fight would be chief vs deadpool... Edit: also to people who use the superman arguement, batman has plans for dealing with superman, he probably keeps kryptonite on him which is supermans weakness, chief doesn't have said weakness not to mention bats would have no knowledge of chiefs abilities. Not to mention they wouldn't be fighting in the first place... [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:22 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Vezon009710 Superman can beat Master Chief. Batman beat Superman. See where this is going?[/quote]Fire beats Grass. Grass beats Water. See where this is going?

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] mityman50 Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence. His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i]. Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything. All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible. Like I said, no matter how much training Batman has, the Chief has that to plus a host of physical and mental hacks. Anything Batman can do, Chief could do better.[/quote] Not to mention bats got his spine broken easily by a beefy guy with breathing problems.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gaurdianAQsclone How... chief is wearing armor... not to mention his energy shield... I hardly think batman could do anything...[/quote] A couple of bat grenades will drop his shields, then a pressure point pinch to the exposed bodysuit will put him out for the count.[/quote] I have a problem with this. For one, Chief's body density is twice that of a normal human, so even if Batman could just use a pressure point pinch, it wouldn't really do much. It doesn't take a degree in human biology to know that pressure points depend a lot of muscle size and density (or that they're actually incredibly hard to take advantage of in a fight, but that's outside the argument). Secondly, I don't think "a couple of bat grenades" is good enough. If there's one thing you can give the Chief credit for in this thread, it's that he's clearly pretty used to having grenades thrown at him by now. It's not as if Batman would be the first guy to think of throwing a grenade at John. [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:20 PM PST]

Forever. Batman would be unlikely to even get through his shields. That is, unless batman sneezes on Chief's back. Then he would win.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] And Im Here Too [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Double A [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fat Man 3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wobbly_guy The master chief would last forever as he'd kill batman easily.[/quote] Nope. Batman is stronger than Master Chief, more intelligent and has a much wider array of equipment to use.[/quote] MC doesn't need gadgets, an AR and a Magnum is all he needs to put Batman to rest.[/quote] Batman would just disarm him with a batarang, then beat his armored ass down. Batman doesn't [i]need[/i] to hide behind pithy little powered suits.[/quote] You're telling me a batarang is gonna make MC drop his weapon? A batarang wouldn't even damage his shields.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC Well Batman isn't exactly going to be attacking Chief at that range is he? Unless of course he has the Bat Wing.[/quote] so he just puffs out from the thin air? Chief has a motion sensor you know...

Can someone explain to me how Batman would have a chance? Granted I'm only thinking of the Nolan Batman, but even still, he's still just a human. No matter how well trained and intelligent he is, the Chief basically has cheat codes for those things, too, what with his augmented strength and intelligence. His armor alone makes him (seemingly) invulnerable to anything Batman could throw at him. I mean, if we want to argue that Batman can dodge bullets, well so can Master Chief, but he [i]doesn't even need to[/i]. Add Cortana in to the mix, and now things just get ridiculous. Together they could dodge and counter anything and everything. All things aside- guns, gadgets, Batarangs, Cortana- if we put Batman in his suit and the Chief in his... Master Chief takes one swing and Batman's rib cage is broken. For Christ's sake, MC's bones are practically indestructible. Like I said, no matter how much training Batman has, the Chief has that plus a host of physical and mental hacks. Anything Batman can do, Chief could do better. [Edited on 11.18.2012 12:20 PM PST]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Saphir Eagle [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Fat Man 3000 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Wobbly_guy The master chief would last forever as he'd kill batman easily.[/quote] Nope. Batman is stronger than Master Chief, more intelligent and has a much wider array of equipment to use.[/quote] [url=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100210010209/halofanon/images/c/c7/SRS102B.jpg]allow me to laugh at you "equipment"[/url] [/quote] Like he's just going to bust that out in a middle of a [i]close[/i] quarters fight. Besides, it's not as if it's standard issue either.[/quote] since when are we in close quarters? [/quote] Well Batman isn't exactly going to be attacking Chief at that range is he? Unless of course he has the Bat Wing.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WAKAxTrollxWAKA Batman would die in 1 second...Master chief would pull out a magnum, and shoot batman in the face faster than he can say Na na na an batman.[/quote] I hope your name reflects on your actions.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Omnicent is stronger, smarter, better equipped[/quote]lel

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] WEE MAN MJJC [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] gaurdianAQsclone How... chief is wearing armor... not to mention his energy shield... I hardly think batman could do anything...[/quote] A couple of bat grenades will drop his shields, then a pressure point pinch to the exposed bodysuit will put him out for the count. [quote]Batmans armor is good vs regular pistols and such that small time crooks carry.[/quote] lolno. It can take punches from Bane and Killer Croc, and at one point Martian Manhunter as well. [quote]Chief uses halo 1 pistol and insta wins... Or a rocket launcher, or a flame thrower... Or any other weapon... Sticky grenade and batman is dead... [url=http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120101164032/halo/images/c/c6/971717-569px_m6g_pistol_super.jpg]all chief needs[/url][/quote] Gameplay mechanics have been established as a moot point, time and time again.[/quote] If chief get hit by [b]couple of[/b] nades, it's reasonable to assume that he has also benn able to throw a plasma grenade at batboy, leaving him in bat sized chunks..