Regardless of generic-ness or not, I still don't find any of the songs memorable aside from To Galaxy. Perhaps because there is nothing to associate them with, or because the music itself doesn't have any recognizable patterns like Marty's music. Then again, the first time I heard Lone Wolf, before I saw the trailer, I loved it.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Mythic 22 T I thank those who linked all of those tracks on the last few pages. Made me :)[/quote] I hadn't even realized how off-topic we went, lol. But yes, I think an appreciate for marty's music is in order.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random *Sigh* I really didn't think I'd have to put "It's unacceptable [i]to me[/i]" or "It's unfitting [i]in my opinion[/i]" or "This is how [i]I[/i] feel" etc. Seriously man... use some common sense we're all posting our opinions and views here.[/quote] Except you weren't asked for an opinion by Roberto, his question was phrased as offering an objective viewpoint. Even so, how does what you say excuse you putting forward your opinion as a fact? -_-

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable. [/quote] [i]*facedesk*[/i] I [i]really[/i] hope you're trolling... It's a new trilogy with a new tone, new theme and new atmosphere and the music is [i]supposed[/i] to reflect that, like the music in ODST was supposed to be completely different from the trilogy. Plus, there are subtle musical cues in some of the Halo 4 tracks which are similar to Halo 3's. Just reinforces what I said earlier...[/quote] I'm saying that I expect to (But probably won't) hear Halo's tune and some remastered tracks throughout Halo 4's soundtrack since we're revisiting the Chief's and Cortana's story. I welcome new music with open arms. Halo 2 and Halo 3 introduced new music but the main Halo themes remained central. I want Halo 4's soundtrack to do the same thing, there's [i]nothing[/i] wrong with wanting that.[/quote] Nothing wrong with wanting it, but there [i]is[/i] something wrong with condemning it as "unacceptable" just because it hasn't turned out the way you want and saying it's unfitting for Halo.[/quote] *Sigh* I really didn't think I'd have to put "It's unacceptable [i]to me[/i]" or "It's unfitting [i]in my opinion[/i]" or "This is how [i]I[/i] feel" etc. Seriously man... use some common sense we're all posting our opinions and views here.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable. [/quote] [i]*facedesk*[/i] I [i]really[/i] hope you're trolling... It's a new trilogy with a new tone, new theme and new atmosphere and the music is [i]supposed[/i] to reflect that, like the music in ODST was supposed to be completely different from the trilogy. Plus, there are subtle musical cues in some of the Halo 4 tracks which are similar to Halo 3's. Just reinforces what I said earlier...[/quote] I'm saying that I expect to (But probably won't) hear Halo's tune and some remastered tracks throughout Halo 4's soundtrack since we're revisiting the Chief's and Cortana's story. I welcome new music with open arms. Halo 2 and Halo 3 introduced new music but the main Halo themes remained central. I want Halo 4's soundtrack to do the same thing, there's [i]nothing[/i] wrong with wanting that.[/quote] Nothing wrong with wanting it, but there [i]is[/i] something wrong with condemning it as "unacceptable" just because it hasn't turned out the way you want and saying it's unfitting for Halo.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable. [/quote] [i]*facedesk*[/i] I [i]really[/i] hope you're trolling... It's a new trilogy with a new tone, new theme and new atmosphere and the music is [i]supposed[/i] to reflect that, like the music in ODST was supposed to be completely different from the trilogy. Plus, there are subtle musical cues in some of the Halo 4 tracks which are similar to Halo 3's. Just reinforces what I said earlier...[/quote] I'm saying that I expect to (But probably won't) hear Halo's tune and some remastered tracks throughout Halo 4's soundtrack since we're revisiting the Chief's and Cortana's story. I welcome new music with open arms. Halo 2 and Halo 3 introduced new music but the main Halo themes remained central. I want Halo 4's soundtrack to do the same thing, there's [i]nothing[/i] wrong with wanting that.

We're in a totally different world with brand new enemies we have never fought before. It makes sense that not all the music will be like the older games. A lot about Halo 4 is different from the original games. Even ODST was different and everybody loved that.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable. [/quote] Please tell me you're trolling... [Edited on 09.16.2012 10:09 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] The Random [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable. [/quote] [i]*facedesk*[/i] I [i]really[/i] hope you're trolling... It's a new trilogy with a new tone, new theme and new atmosphere and the music is [i]supposed[/i] to reflect that, like the music in ODST was supposed to be completely different from the trilogy. Plus, there are subtle musical cues in some of the Halo 4 tracks which are similar to Halo 3's. Just reinforces what I said earlier...

lol yesh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Statefarm98 OP is advertising his video. [/quote]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Because it does not have the original trilogy's music. I welcome some new music in Halo 4's soundtrack but I still expect to hear the same tunes that the original trilogy had and some remastered music from the original trilogy. I'm not hearing nearly enough of the original trilogy with the samples we've heard so far, that's what makes me upset. We're revisiting the Master Chief's story so it would only be fitting if we got some remastered tracks from the original trilogy. Discarding the original tunes and tracks is just unacceptable.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sigma617 [/quote] Agreed with everything you've said ITT. I'm still looking forward to Halo 4, it's only too bad that it has a generic summer blockbuster soundtrack.[/quote]It's not generic, it's really good! :P[/quote] I don't think so. It lacks identity and doesn't strike me as something I'd expect from Halo.[/quote] This is the kind of stuff I was talking about. After ten years of listening to only 1 guy's style of music, you've all just assumed that the only way it can sound "like Halo" is if it has Marty's seal of approval on it (which, by the way, the Halo 4 soundtrack totally does). Marty has his own style, themes and motifs he uses. To you, on a subconcious level, that is the only thing Halo can sound like. If someone changes that style, or even if the Artist changes, you suddenly say it sounds "generic," a bandwagon trigger word that does not accurately describe the topic. The original Halo trilogy had just as many songs that sounded "generic" as this one does. [url=http://www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=6BA3L3Eq29Y&feature=plcp]this[/url] is not generic. Nor is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKuRuZ2P6lQ&feature=plcp]this.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wly8IcmKqvQ]This, by the apparent definition of this forum, IS generic. It's a simple repeating motif overlayed with percussive background music, put to an electric guitar.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlsqGz26ve8]Most movie tracks wouldn't go for this cosmic horror feel of foreboding.[/url] Nor would they attempt a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnbhzvZAG3I]deep space tragedy.[/url] Halo, on the other hand, would. Before ODST came out, if I told you that Halo would have a new artist for a new Halo game, and that he was going to be heavy on the jazz and saxaphone, would you have flipped your -blam!-? Probably. If I told you that artist was not new, and was just an experimental Marty, you would be a lot calmer, but still likely would have flipped some -blam!-. And then I gave you narrative and visual context, allowed you to play the game. Suddenly, the soundtrack is the one of the best in the franchise, despite not being anything like Halo "should sound." So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] Good post. Looking at what I said, I went with a poor choice of words to describe my opinion on the music of Halo 4. Instead, put it like this. The samples on the OP are now any piece of random stock music and so are the past Halo soundtracks. No narrative or visual context. The pre-Halo 4 music will still sound better to me. Not because of the guy who wrote it, but because I prefer how it sounds. People assume too much and think they have to justify or make an excuse for every single thing in the world. Mass Effect 3 has several new composers. I wasn't hateful towards them at all, as a matter of fact I enjoyed most of it even if my favourite tracks were from Sam Hulick.

The only one I like is 117.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ajw34307 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Lord Revan x Honestly, its very difficult to judge these pieces out of context. They're beautiful tracks, well composed, and executed. But, without the game we're unable to make an accurate assessment in my opinion. Think of John Williams and how his pieces resonate with you. You hear the Imperial March and you immediately think of Darth Vader and vice versa. The Halo theme is synonymous with the game because if you think of the music you think of Master Chief and vice versa. Without the game, we don't have a grounding point for the music. We can't associate something else with it yet and that makes these pieces sound good, but not great. I'm waiting for the game to really listen to the tracks more closely. [/quote] Exactly, without context there is no way we can truly judge these pieces. I think of Under Cover of Night, I remember the sniping sections of T&R and the 'Final Run' section of Two Betrayals. I think of In Amber Clad, I remember the 'Nothing but Jackal' segment of Delta Halo. We can't do this with Halo 4 yet because the game isn't out. I can only speculate that Revival will play when the Didact emerges from the Cryptum because of the chanting being reminiscent from what happens in the novel Halo: Cryptum - which already provides a layer of fiction to the track if it turns out to be true.[/quote] These men speak the truth.

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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] x Lord Revan x Honestly, its very difficult to judge these pieces out of context. They're beautiful tracks, well composed, and executed. But, without the game we're unable to make an accurate assessment in my opinion. Think of John Williams and how his pieces resonate with you. You hear the Imperial March and you immediately think of Darth Vader and vice versa. The Halo theme is synonymous with the game because if you think of the music you think of Master Chief and vice versa. Without the game, we don't have a grounding point for the music. We can't associate something else with it yet and that makes these pieces sound good, but not great. I'm waiting for the game to really listen to the tracks more closely. [/quote] Exactly, without context there is no way we can truly judge these pieces. I think of Under Cover of Night, I remember the sniping sections of T&R and the 'Final Run' section of Two Betrayals. I think of In Amber Clad, I remember the 'Nothing but Jackal' segment of Delta Halo. We can't do this with Halo 4 yet because the game isn't out. I can only speculate that Revival will play when the Didact emerges from the Cryptum because of the chanting being reminiscent from what happens in the novel Halo: Cryptum - which already provides a layer of fiction to the track if it turns out to be true.

Requiem is the only one I actually like, the others sound pretty generic sci-fi IMO. EDIT: Hmm, the Requiem in the OP isn't the same as the one I've listened to in the past. [Edited on 09.16.2012 8:43 AM PDT]

Sounds like music from a cinematic movie. That's actually not a bad thing. In fact, it's amazing.

Errhhm.. I don't know why, but I didn't really care for a lot of the samples linked in the OP. Nothing about them strikes me to think them as unique and original.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sigma617 [/quote] Agreed with everything you've said ITT. I'm still looking forward to Halo 4, it's only too bad that it has a generic summer blockbuster soundtrack.[/quote]It's not generic, it's really good! :P[/quote] I don't think so. It lacks identity and doesn't strike me as something I'd expect from Halo.[/quote] This is the kind of stuff I was talking about. After ten years of listening to only 1 guy's style of music, you've all just assumed that the only way it can sound "like Halo" is if it has Marty's seal of approval on it (which, by the way, the Halo 4 soundtrack totally does). Marty has his own style, themes and motifs he uses. To you, on a subconcious level, that is the only thing Halo can sound like. If someone changes that style, or even if the Artist changes, you suddenly say it sounds "generic," a bandwagon trigger word that does not accurately describe the topic. The original Halo trilogy had just as many songs that sounded "generic" as this one does. [url=http://www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=6BA3L3Eq29Y&feature=plcp]this[/url] is not generic. Nor is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKuRuZ2P6lQ&feature=plcp]this.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wly8IcmKqvQ]This, by the apparent definition of this forum, IS generic. It's a simple repeating motif overlayed with percussive background music, put to an electric guitar.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlsqGz26ve8]Most movie tracks wouldn't go for this cosmic horror feel of foreboding.[/url] Nor would they attempt a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnbhzvZAG3I]deep space tragedy.[/url] Halo, on the other hand, would. Before ODST came out, if I told you that Halo would have a new artist for a new Halo game, and that he was going to be heavy on the jazz and saxaphone, would you have flipped your -blam!-? Probably. If I told you that artist was not new, and was just an experimental Marty, you would be a lot calmer, but still likely would have flipped some -blam!-. And then I gave you narrative and visual context, allowed you to play the game. Suddenly, the soundtrack is the one of the best in the franchise, despite not being anything like Halo "should sound." So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo?[/quote] 10/10 post ROBERTO. As for the bump, I feel that others might want to hear this.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] ROBERTO jh Before ODST came out, if I told you that Halo would have a new artist for a new Halo game, and that he was going to be heavy on the jazz and saxaphone, would you have flipped your -blam!-? Probably. If I told you that artist was not new, and was just an experimental Marty, you would be a lot calmer, but still likely would have flipped some -blam!-.[/quote] I could not have put this better myself. Look at Stephen Rippy who composed the Halo Wars OST, [i]nobody[/i] complains about him because his musical themes and tones are entirely based off Marty's work and they sound extremely similar. It's that same mentality that comes with reaction to game design, "change = bad".

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sigma617 [/quote] Agreed with everything you've said ITT. I'm still looking forward to Halo 4, it's only too bad that it has a generic summer blockbuster soundtrack.[/quote]It's not generic, it's really good! :P[/quote] I don't think so. It lacks identity and doesn't strike me as something I'd expect from Halo.[/quote] This is the kind of stuff I was talking about. After ten years of listening to only 1 guy's style of music, you've all just assumed that the only way it can sound "like Halo" is if it has Marty's seal of approval on it (which, by the way, the Halo 4 soundtrack totally does). Marty has his own style, themes and motifs he uses. To you, on a subconcious level, that is the only thing Halo can sound like. If someone changes that style, or even if the Artist changes, you suddenly say it sounds "generic," a bandwagon trigger word that does not accurately describe the topic. The original Halo trilogy had just as many songs that sounded "generic" as this one does. [url=http://www.listenonrepeat.com/watch/?v=6BA3L3Eq29Y&feature=plcp]this[/url] is not generic. Nor is [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oKuRuZ2P6lQ&feature=plcp]this.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wly8IcmKqvQ]This, by the apparent definition of this forum, IS generic. It's a simple repeating motif overlayed with percussive background music, put to an electric guitar.[/url] [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlsqGz26ve8]Most movie tracks wouldn't go for this cosmic horror feel of foreboding.[/url] Nor would they attempt a [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnbhzvZAG3I]deep space tragedy.[/url] Halo, on the other hand, would. Before ODST came out, if I told you that Halo would have a new artist for a new Halo game, and that he was going to be heavy on the jazz and saxaphone, would you have flipped your -blam!-? Probably. If I told you that artist was not new, and was just an experimental Marty, you would be a lot calmer, but still likely would have flipped some -blam!-. And then I gave you narrative and visual context, allowed you to play the game. Suddenly, the soundtrack is the one of the best in the franchise, despite not being anything like Halo "should sound." So tell me, how exactly is Halo 4's soundtrack unfitting for Halo? [Edited on 09.16.2012 6:34 AM PDT]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II If marty made them then you wouldn't have said that. [/quote] If Marty made the exact same soundtrack I'd feel the same way I feel about it now. I didn't like everything he made. I thank those who linked all of those tracks on the last few pages. Made me :) [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1cvcyi9oPU]I don't want to exclude ODST.[/url]

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] hotshot revan II [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sigma617 [/quote] Agreed with everything you've said ITT. I'm still looking forward to Halo 4, it's only too bad that it has a generic summer blockbuster soundtrack.[/quote]It's not generic, it's really good! :P[/quote] I don't think so. It lacks identity and doesn't strike me as something I'd expect from Halo.[/quote] If marty made them then you wouldn't have said that. [/quote] Probably, because Marty would have made them differently. They're still good though.

[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkBen64 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] masterdrone [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Sigma617 [/quote] Agreed with everything you've said ITT. I'm still looking forward to Halo 4, it's only too bad that it has a generic summer blockbuster soundtrack.[/quote]It's not generic, it's really good! :P[/quote] I don't think so. It lacks identity and doesn't strike me as something I'd expect from Halo.[/quote] If marty made them then you wouldn't have said that.