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8/19/2012 11:38:18 PM
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Why do parents inherently deserve respect?(edited with responses)
After seeing a thread today i have pondered this as i have been for over a decade.
I don't understand why parents are entitled to get instant respect just for the sheer fact they are parents. You are raised saying "respect is given and earned" yet when it comes to parents most people assume it should automatically be given.
I am only sharing this for the sake of the thread and i am not intending to blog with this; I don't have the best parents and that is a gross understatement. They only care for themselves,what is best for themselves and hardly put my sister and i first as the "ideal parents" should/do. My father hasn't done a single thing for me his entire life and makes no effort while my mother just lives her life.
I suspect this is because of having children at a young age and they never got to actually "live" so they were trying to raise children while enjoying themselves.
Now I am not some spoiled kid that whines about everything. I don't ask for anything so my sister can get "what she needs" and of course she is spoiled. I bought my own car, pay for my own gas and insurance, Make dinner at home if not i eat out, i bought everything in my room and majority of my cloths. I could go on but I pretty much do everything for myself and have the money to move out when i get done with school in a few months.
Again, i could list all the things i do around the house blah blah. I do my part and so forth and because of such i have no reason to inherently respect my parents seeing as "i am my own parent" and have been self sufficient for nearly the last decade.
I feel like the parents worth respecting are the ones that go above and beyond for their kids and don't try throwing anything in their faces because "i am your parent". I didn't ask to be born and nor did anyone else. Does that mean they should be respectful and ungrateful even when their parents are? no, but at the same time i don't see the need or reason for having some undying respect for your parents just because they are.
I'll be expecting long rants (mostly from parents). The point i wanted to get across is that the respect should be earned both ways not inherently.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Scottus4
They don't inherently deserve respect. One doesn't respect doing the bare minimum for anything else, why would someone respect a parent that beats them or neglects them, even if they allowed them to live in their house with them and fed them (which are required by law, not feeding your kid is child abuse).
They only deserve respect if they really put in the effort to shape a young person into a mentally and socially stable and productive member of society. [/quote]
Kids, this is what he is talking and it matches what OP (Grey101) said.
In fact, parents do not inherently deserve respect because they have bare minimum for anything else.
They have to earn the respect by focusing its effort to their off spring to be mentally, socially stable and becoming productive member of society. If they didn't do that, then they do not deserve respect. [/quote]
[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] QuestVibes
No, not inherently. They earn it by providing for you and being good parents.[/quote]
That is what i needed to see, thank you.
[Edited on 08.20.2012 2:55 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson You need to learn that your parents could have thrown your ass in a dumpster and noone could have been the wiser.[/quote] Except they can't do that because it is against the law. So, your point is a moot now. And you clearly did not understand what I said so, maybe you should back out and take a family psychology course to understand this trivial statement that I stated. [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV You expect them to do all that, While also working a full time job to support you? [/quote] That's point of raising the kids. Which part do you not understand? [quote]Someone is self centered. Man the -blam!- up[/quote] It proves that you are an idiot. They earned my respect AFTER making myself into mentally/socially stable and productive member to the modern society. Look at where I am at now: I'm in college, third year and about take two internships in IT major and they are proud of me now. So, maybe you should take your retarded generalization elsewhere.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 they never raised me/quote]Can you elaborate?[/quote] Did you read the OP? I feel like i answered that sufficiently.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raganok99 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson Are you kidding me? So your parents decided to raise you - which is a heavy heavy financial decision - they breathed life into you, made sure you didn't die in your first 10 years and you dont think that gets an ounce of respect?[/quote] Funny, that is their decision, not ours. And, again, I already told you again- it's bare minimum (by the way, it was also requirement of law). Do I need to explain again on why they don't inherently deserve respect for [i]bare minimum requirements[/i]? And they [i]must deserve[/i] respect by doing lot of effort to raise a child to be [b]mentally and socially[/b] stable and be [b]productive member[/b] to the modern and future society. You need to take a family psychology course or two, bro. [/quote] You expect them to do all that, While also working a full time job to support you? Someone is self centered. Man the -blam!- up[/quote] That is like saying " you expect me to do good in college while having a job?"
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 they never raised me[/quote]Can you elaborate? [Edited on 08.20.2012 11:32 AM PDT]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 So your parents never raised you? How did you make it out of diapers? How are you still alive? I read the OP. Stfu about your stupid OP. It was garbage. Do you pay rent? So you have a job? How you you afford all this food you go out and eat? What about the food you make at your house? Are you paying for the gas? The electric? Without those, you arent making the food.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Primo84 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Addison Stone I read the first two lines or so. The fact that they've fed you, clothed you, taken care of you, and otherwise kept you alive long enough for those thoughts to start popping up in your head shows they've earned some respect.[/quote]This. The fact that you're [i]here[/i], on the internet, conveying this message indicates that they could have done much worse. [/quote] Don't talk if you don't have anything nice to say. Don't post in a thread if you haven't read the original post.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats. Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] I suggest you leave the thread if you aren't even going to bother reading the OP and wish to keep making remarks that only show your foolishness. I bought this laptop and Yes she is paying for the internet but it isn't any issue for me to drive 10 mins to walmart and get what i need from there. I only have 1 "parent" and that is stretching it, so we should live only looking at the good things in life and not reflect on anything else? You can't talked down to somebody when you are incredibly arrogant and unwise yourself.[/quote] Nah Ill stay. And Ive read it. YOU still live with your mom. If you hate her so much, Move out. Stop mooching off of her. OR you could stay. Stop complaning and be greatful. How bad can she possibly be if shes providing you with all your essentials? You need to man up.[/quote] you clearly didn't read the OP. I never said i hate her I just don't respect her those words aren't synonymous. You read the OP correct? I Make the food while i am here and if i am not eating at home (which isn't often right now due to summer) I go out and buy food with my own money. What the hell am i complaining about? I am asking if i should respect my parents when they never raised me, that is asking a legitimate question that you aren't helping to answer. You didn't read the OP. Providing the basics shouldn't be enlightened to respect and i have been self sufficient nearly my whole life which was caused by them not raising me. If you don't see my point of view that doesn't annoy me since we are all human. But if you aren't going to read the OP and contribute to the rather well met discussion that is going on i implore you to leave the thread. If i feel that your next post isn't contributing to the thread then i am just going to start reporting all of your post in this thread.
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[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nojWJ6-XmeQ]the people whining about their parents ITT[/url]
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Addison Stone I read the first two lines or so. The fact that they've fed you, clothed you, taken care of you, and otherwise kept you alive long enough for those thoughts to start popping up in your head shows they've earned some respect.[/quote]This. The fact that you're [i]here[/i], on the internet, conveying this message indicates that they could have done much worse.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raganok99 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson Are you kidding me? So your parents decided to raise you - which is a heavy heavy financial decision - they breathed life into you, made sure you didn't die in your first 10 years and you dont think that gets an ounce of respect?[/quote] Funny, that is their decision, not ours. And, again, I already told you again- it's bare minimum (by the way, it was also requirement of law). Do I need to explain again on why they don't inherently deserve respect for [i]bare minimum requirements[/i]? And they [i]must deserve[/i] respect by doing lot of effort to raise a child to be [b]mentally and socially[/b] stable and be [b]productive member[/b] to the modern and future society. You need to take a family psychology course or two, bro. [/quote] You expect them to do all that, While also working a full time job to support you? Someone is self centered. Man the -blam!- up
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raganok99 You need to take a family psychology course or two, bro. [/quote]You need to learn that your parents could have thrown your ass in a dumpster and noone could have been the wiser.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson Are you kidding me? So your parents decided to raise you - which is a heavy heavy financial decision - they breathed life into you, made sure you didn't die in your first 10 years and you dont think that gets an ounce of respect?[/quote] Funny, that is their decision, not ours. And, again, I already told you again- it's bare minimum (by the way, it was also requirement of law). Do I need to explain again on why they don't inherently deserve respect for [i]bare minimum requirements[/i]? And they [i]must deserve[/i] respect by doing lot of effort to raise a child to be [b]mentally and socially[/b] stable and be [b]productive member[/b] to the modern and future society. You need to take a family psychology course or two, bro.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats. Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] I suggest you leave the thread if you aren't even going to bother reading the OP and wish to keep making remarks that only show your foolishness. I bought this laptop and Yes she is paying for the internet but it isn't any issue for me to drive 10 mins to walmart and get what i need from there. I only have 1 "parent" and that is stretching it, so we should live only looking at the good things in life and not reflect on anything else? You can't talked down to somebody when you are incredibly arrogant and unwise yourself.[/quote] Nah Ill stay. And Ive read it. YOU still live with your mom. If you hate her so much, Move out. Stop mooching off of her. OR you could stay. Stop complaning and be greatful. How bad can she possibly be if shes providing you with all your essentials? You need to man up.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkSunnyboy1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats.[/quote] Quite a generalization. [quote] Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] Uhm, this is the stupidest thing I've read. A quarter of the Earth's population have internet access. [/quote] Not a generalization. Do you understand how hard it is to raise kids? "Oh no my mom and dad wernt around" Guess where they were? At work. Working their ass off so you can have nice things. Like an xbox, a computer, a tv. But its all good. You guys are teenagers. I was the same way when I was a teen. I didnt appreciate my parents then. But one day you'll grow up and see how much of a dumbass you were[/quote] I'm living in an apartment, I support myself. And if closed-minded parents like you can't tolerate their kids beliefs/preferences, they're dicks for parents. Seriously, stop with the retarded generalizations.
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I respect my Mother.She is the one who has looked after me the most while I was little,and she is still looking after me to the day. I used to respect my dad...but he can go fukk himself. [Edited on 08.20.2012 11:19 AM PDT]
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Ah reminds me of my ethics class last semester. I can't remember the author of this book however. I took the standpoint that parents earn respect by providing for their children in the necessary ways. A parent who fails to provide and do good for their family properly deserves none.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DarkSunnyboy1 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats.[/quote] Quite a generalization. [quote] Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] Uhm, this is the stupidest thing I've read. A quarter of the Earth's population have internet access. [/quote] Not a generalization. Do you understand how hard it is to raise kids? "Oh no my mom and dad wernt around" Guess where they were? At work. Working their ass off so you can have nice things. Like an xbox, a computer, a tv. But its all good. You guys are teenagers. I was the same way when I was a teen. I didnt appreciate my parents then. But one day you'll grow up and see how much of a dumbass you were
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They deserve a certain amount for paying for your -blam!-. I don't think the previous generation understands that disagreeing with them over an issue doesn't mean that they're being disrespected. Western Man is getting more intelligent by the generation.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats. Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] I suggest you leave the thread if you aren't even going to bother reading the OP and wish to keep making remarks that only show your foolishness. I bought this laptop and Yes she is paying for the internet but it isn't any issue for me to drive 10 mins to walmart and get what i need from there. I only have 1 "parent" and that is stretching it, so we should live only looking at the good things in life and not reflect on anything else? You can't talked down to somebody when you are incredibly arrogant and unwise yourself.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats.[/quote] Quite a generalization. [quote] Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong. [/quote] Uhm, this is the stupidest thing I've read. A quarter of the Earth's population have internet access.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] raganok99 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson [/quote] Except that parents do not inherently deserve respect because they [i]have[/i] bare minimum requirements like roof over your head, fed you, raised you, etc. Heard of polishing a child into mentally/socially stable and productive member of the modern society? That [i]kind of effort[/i] earns main respect for the parents. [/quote]Are you kidding me? So your parents decided to raise you - which is a heavy heavy financial decision - they breathed life into you, made sure you didn't die in your first 10 years and you dont think that gets an ounce of respect?
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Why did I expect differently from the flood? I stand by my opinion, Spoiled brats. Just the fact that you have the internet and a computer tells me you have it better than 90% of the world. Be thankful for what your parents gave you. Dont dwell on what they did wrong.
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Went into the thread with an OP IS A RETARD. Went out with a changed life.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Carly Rae Jepson [/quote] Except that parents do not inherently deserve respect because they [i]have[/i] bare minimum requirements like roof over your head, fed you, raised you, etc. Heard of polishing a child into mentally/socially stable and productive member of the modern society? That [i]kind of effort[/i] earns main respect for the parents.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] grey101 [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV ITT: spolied brats Of course parents need to be respected. They have raised you. Without them, youd be dead.[/quote] You clearly need the OP.[/quote] It's PSU's alt, if his kid doesn't follow the Bible he'd kick them out. That's how closed-minded he is.
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[quote][b]Posted by:[/b] DatDudeBV ITT: spolied brats Of course parents need to be respected. They have raised you. Without them, youd be dead.[/quote] You clearly need the OP.
